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WWII Item - Bombs Away, or Where's Chicken? Part I & II
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:17 pm
Hello again... I got a WWII Piece in that I been waiting on and I thought I would do another thread... All these things are mine BTW.
First off, I really appreciate all the comments. These threads take a lot of time to do, write, work pictures etc.. and honestly.. When you spend a couple days on a threat, it kind of suck when it goes to page two within two hours for lack of Post.. Also.. I have yet for Chicken to even reply to one. I mention him because maybe it would be nice if the pics didn't disappear after two weeks. 'Hint, hint'
Now anyways... Here we go. I got in a couple days ago this RAF Map... Dated Feb 1942. It is the Alexandria, Egypt Region.
The story on the Map that I got was that it belonged to a British Flyer who flew transport in N Afrika. I am speculating that he was flying supplies to the British during the build up and also used afterwards as well.
If you know your history of WWII, El Alamein it is where The British Stopped Rommel and the Afrika Korps. The first time was in July... The British built up supplies and during the Second Battle of El Alamein the British were able to Drive Rommel and the Afrika Korps back West into N. Afrika.
Here is a closer look at specific areas of the map.
Here is a close of the El Alamein area. You can notice that the Pilot (Or Navagator) drew through El Alamein and made a slight turn to the North on this particular flight path... and also notice the strange markings just South of El Alamein.
This looks like two different flight paths at different times... I am unsure... But the straight line marking I assume are naviagation courses... IS the point a degree variation via compass?
This picute of the Oasis is interesting.. For some reason there are these circles located all over the map. They are not part of the map but drawn on... There are scattered all over the map.. Also note the 1'00 W 1942... Someone please explain these if you can.. Thanks.
More Circles and Strange markings.... While I know the straight lines and marks there are navagation miles and timing marks... The loosly drawn circles I don't know.. You will also notice the perfectly drawn circle by the navigational line.
Now... Moving to more Raf, Aircraft and British in this thread....
This is the start of my ARP area... Which is Air Raid Precautions.
ON TO PART TWO OF THIS THREAD.
First off, I really appreciate all the comments. These threads take a lot of time to do, write, work pictures etc.. and honestly.. When you spend a couple days on a threat, it kind of suck when it goes to page two within two hours for lack of Post.. Also.. I have yet for Chicken to even reply to one. I mention him because maybe it would be nice if the pics didn't disappear after two weeks. 'Hint, hint'
Now anyways... Here we go. I got in a couple days ago this RAF Map... Dated Feb 1942. It is the Alexandria, Egypt Region.
The story on the Map that I got was that it belonged to a British Flyer who flew transport in N Afrika. I am speculating that he was flying supplies to the British during the build up and also used afterwards as well.
If you know your history of WWII, El Alamein it is where The British Stopped Rommel and the Afrika Korps. The first time was in July... The British built up supplies and during the Second Battle of El Alamein the British were able to Drive Rommel and the Afrika Korps back West into N. Afrika.
Here is a closer look at specific areas of the map.
Here is a close of the El Alamein area. You can notice that the Pilot (Or Navagator) drew through El Alamein and made a slight turn to the North on this particular flight path... and also notice the strange markings just South of El Alamein.
This looks like two different flight paths at different times... I am unsure... But the straight line marking I assume are naviagation courses... IS the point a degree variation via compass?
This picute of the Oasis is interesting.. For some reason there are these circles located all over the map. They are not part of the map but drawn on... There are scattered all over the map.. Also note the 1'00 W 1942... Someone please explain these if you can.. Thanks.
More Circles and Strange markings.... While I know the straight lines and marks there are navagation miles and timing marks... The loosly drawn circles I don't know.. You will also notice the perfectly drawn circle by the navigational line.
Now... Moving to more Raf, Aircraft and British in this thread....
This is the start of my ARP area... Which is Air Raid Precautions.
ON TO PART TWO OF THIS THREAD.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 2:22 pm
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:18 pm to WWII Collector
This is the start of my ARP area... Which is Air Raid Precautions.
A quick basic history is this: Air Raid Precautions (ARP) refers to a number of organizations and guidelines in the United Kingdom dedicated to the protection of civilians from the danger of air raids. Government consideration for air raid precautions increased in the 1920s and 30s, with the Raid Wardens' Service set up in 1937 to report on bombing incidents.[1] Every local council was responsible for organizing ARP wardens, messengers, ambulance drivers, rescue parties, and liaison with police and fire brigades.
From 1 September 1939, ARP wardens enforced the "blackout". Heavy curtains and shutters were required on all private residences, commercial premises, and factories to prevent light escaping and so making them a possible marker for enemy bombers to locate their targets.
With increased enemy bombing during the Blitz, the ARP services were central in reporting and dealing with bombing incidents. They managed the air raid sirens and ensured people were directed to shelters. Women were involved in ARP services through the Women's Voluntary Service. There were about 1 Million People who were part of the ARP in Britian during the war...
The Helmet is dated 1941, But in all actuality it is Canadian, The British were Black. But it will be replaced as soon as I find one.
The ARP whistle... USed to draw attention by Wardens when a person was found, to draw attention for help, or to point someone out who was violating black rules. But it was basically just a whistle with special tone.
Then we have the ARP Badge... More info can be found HERE.
They were Silver in the beginning until things got rough for the British.. Notice the back has the Jewerly Makers mark and the "C" stand for the date made. In this case '39. It has a through the button hole loop.\
Now the ARP cigarettes' Album.. Explaining more ARP info... Back then the citizens were given equipment to put out Incendiary Bombs. Such as Scoops and buckets of sand on the streets.
And the ARP "ALL Clear Bell".. This things is incredible how loud it is.. and clear. It is stamped JB '39
Now... on to bombs...
This is a MK-23 practice bomb was one of three similar miniature practice bombs used for low-altitude horizontal or dive bombing practice during WWII.
It weighs about 3 pound... Inside it they had a long 10 gauge shotgun shell with white phosphorus. When the bomb hit in practice it make a loug bang and shot up white phosphorous to indicate where the pilot hit on the target.
The shotgun shell went off by striking a pin due to the inertia of the bomb hitting the target. They were mainly used on low winging training aircraft, particularly dive bomber training...
You can read more about them here... LINK
This is the M28A2 Practice Bomb... My paint job on it is not the greatest, but it is better than what it looked like originally...
I bough my first one many years ago when I was about 12 years old.. I paid $15... Believe me. They are about 40 times that high now...
These are actually fit to size in your large bomber racks. The B25, B26, B 17 ect. They were filled with sand and also had the same inertia shot gun shell primer. They were dropped on large targets from higher altitude bombers and each pilot was scored...
You can find out more here. LINK
Now... This is a You Tube Video... But if you guys are interested. This is actually WWII Bombing training. If you watch the video you can see the MK-23 practice bomb hitting the target and shooting up white phosphorous. around the 7 minute mark
WWII Dive Bombing Training Film
But here is a picture from the film showing the White Cloud of Phosphorous after hitting the target.
ANd finally... I am enclosing this unrelated piece because I finally found out what it is...
Italian Fascist
National Black shirt (camicie nere) Gathering
in this case they are postal workers.
Days 4, 5 and 6 May 1930
I hope that you made it until the end.. This wasn;t my greatest thread ever, but I got things to do and can't be on this computer all freaking day...
Your replies are appreciated.
Ps- this post cannot exceed 7,900 characters kind of sux…
A quick basic history is this: Air Raid Precautions (ARP) refers to a number of organizations and guidelines in the United Kingdom dedicated to the protection of civilians from the danger of air raids. Government consideration for air raid precautions increased in the 1920s and 30s, with the Raid Wardens' Service set up in 1937 to report on bombing incidents.[1] Every local council was responsible for organizing ARP wardens, messengers, ambulance drivers, rescue parties, and liaison with police and fire brigades.
From 1 September 1939, ARP wardens enforced the "blackout". Heavy curtains and shutters were required on all private residences, commercial premises, and factories to prevent light escaping and so making them a possible marker for enemy bombers to locate their targets.
With increased enemy bombing during the Blitz, the ARP services were central in reporting and dealing with bombing incidents. They managed the air raid sirens and ensured people were directed to shelters. Women were involved in ARP services through the Women's Voluntary Service. There were about 1 Million People who were part of the ARP in Britian during the war...
The Helmet is dated 1941, But in all actuality it is Canadian, The British were Black. But it will be replaced as soon as I find one.
The ARP whistle... USed to draw attention by Wardens when a person was found, to draw attention for help, or to point someone out who was violating black rules. But it was basically just a whistle with special tone.
Then we have the ARP Badge... More info can be found HERE.
They were Silver in the beginning until things got rough for the British.. Notice the back has the Jewerly Makers mark and the "C" stand for the date made. In this case '39. It has a through the button hole loop.\
Now the ARP cigarettes' Album.. Explaining more ARP info... Back then the citizens were given equipment to put out Incendiary Bombs. Such as Scoops and buckets of sand on the streets.
And the ARP "ALL Clear Bell".. This things is incredible how loud it is.. and clear. It is stamped JB '39
Now... on to bombs...
This is a MK-23 practice bomb was one of three similar miniature practice bombs used for low-altitude horizontal or dive bombing practice during WWII.
It weighs about 3 pound... Inside it they had a long 10 gauge shotgun shell with white phosphorus. When the bomb hit in practice it make a loug bang and shot up white phosphorous to indicate where the pilot hit on the target.
The shotgun shell went off by striking a pin due to the inertia of the bomb hitting the target. They were mainly used on low winging training aircraft, particularly dive bomber training...
You can read more about them here... LINK
This is the M28A2 Practice Bomb... My paint job on it is not the greatest, but it is better than what it looked like originally...
I bough my first one many years ago when I was about 12 years old.. I paid $15... Believe me. They are about 40 times that high now...
These are actually fit to size in your large bomber racks. The B25, B26, B 17 ect. They were filled with sand and also had the same inertia shot gun shell primer. They were dropped on large targets from higher altitude bombers and each pilot was scored...
You can find out more here. LINK
Now... This is a You Tube Video... But if you guys are interested. This is actually WWII Bombing training. If you watch the video you can see the MK-23 practice bomb hitting the target and shooting up white phosphorous. around the 7 minute mark
WWII Dive Bombing Training Film
But here is a picture from the film showing the White Cloud of Phosphorous after hitting the target.
ANd finally... I am enclosing this unrelated piece because I finally found out what it is...
Italian Fascist
National Black shirt (camicie nere) Gathering
in this case they are postal workers.
Days 4, 5 and 6 May 1930
I hope that you made it until the end.. This wasn;t my greatest thread ever, but I got things to do and can't be on this computer all freaking day...
Your replies are appreciated.
Ps- this post cannot exceed 7,900 characters kind of sux…
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:19 pm to WWII Collector
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WWII Collector
Name sure in the hell checks out.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:26 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
Name sure in the hell checks out.
ikr...
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:33 pm to WWII Collector
quote:
When you spend a couple days on a threat, it kind of suck when it goes to page two within two hours for lack of Post..
If you cry about it they may sticky it to the top you crotchety old fart
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:36 pm to WWII Collector
I love your threads
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:38 pm to WWII Collector
Thanks for posting this. Your threads are always interesting. My grandpa and his brothers all served, I only got to meet one of them so the reading this stuff kind of helps me know them in a way.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:40 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
If you cry about it they may sticky it to the top you crotchety old fart
It's my threat and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, cry if I want to... You would cry too if it happened to youuuuuuuuuuu..
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:41 pm to WWII Collector
Great thread per usual; thanks again for sharing 
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:46 pm to WWII Collector
I wonder, if you were to find a WW2-era recipe for fried chicken if the Master of Poultry himself may pop in for a bite?
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:47 pm to When in Rome
Thank you all baws... It makes the past three hours that I sit here and wasted all worth while.
When I could have been on the Poli board really making a difference in this world.
When I could have been on the Poli board really making a difference in this world.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:48 pm to WWII Collector
Very interesting bit about the air raids. Do you have any old sirens from that time?
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:54 pm to linewar
quote:
I wonder, if you were to find a WW2-era recipe for fried chicken if the Master of Poultry himself may pop in for a bite?
You Sir.. Or Madam... I am not assuming Gender here...
Have decided my next thread... Thank You.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:55 pm to WWII Collector
Good stuff. Hopefully we can keep this on the first page for bit.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 2:59 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
quote:
Very interesting bit about the air raids. Do you have any old sirens from that time?
Yes, I do...
Be sure to turn the sound on.
LINK
looking for one of the bigger ones, but have yet to find one.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:03 pm to WWII Collector
I am a baw, as are all the other OTers 
but I answer to "Sir" at work. (and try to from my son at home)
I stumbled across a guy on YouTube who makes old recipes to test out. I enjoyed his WW2-era recipes because of the rationing - people got pretty creative. Dylan Hollis is his name.
but I answer to "Sir" at work. (and try to from my son at home) I stumbled across a guy on YouTube who makes old recipes to test out. I enjoyed his WW2-era recipes because of the rationing - people got pretty creative. Dylan Hollis is his name.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:08 pm to linewar
quote:
I am a baw, as are all the other OTers but I answer to "Sir" at work. (and try to from my son at home)
I stumbled across a guy on YouTube who makes old recipes to test out. I enjoyed his WW2-era recipes because of the rationing - people got pretty creative. Dylan Hollis is his name.
lol... like I said.. You have decided my next threads topic...
In my collection, i have sub-catagories that i major in... Music, Christmas, Specific US States & FOOD...
i will smurf Dylan up this evening.. ty
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:30 pm to WWII Collector
Very cool stuff. Please keep posting.
Father, who is still living, was in the in the 13th AF and stationed in Philippines and New Guinea. Worked with radar and radio to help damaged and lost planes find friendly airfields. Was supposedly going to be a FAC for Operation Coronet; fortunately it wasn't needed.
Father, who is still living, was in the in the 13th AF and stationed in Philippines and New Guinea. Worked with radar and radio to help damaged and lost planes find friendly airfields. Was supposedly going to be a FAC for Operation Coronet; fortunately it wasn't needed.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:32 pm to WWII Collector
love your threads WWII Collector, need you and AntiqueTiger to join up and make a reality YT show where he finds the stuff and you describe the details of it
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:56 pm to WWII Collector
Another cool thread!
Have you ever ran across any meteorology stuff from WWII? Most of it would have been RAF. A while back I did some reading on how meteorology reports were crucial for D-Day planning. It was just as crucial for many other aspects of the war.
Have you ever ran across any meteorology stuff from WWII? Most of it would have been RAF. A while back I did some reading on how meteorology reports were crucial for D-Day planning. It was just as crucial for many other aspects of the war.
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