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Voter ID Laws

Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
773 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:33 pm
Liberals say one of the reasons voter ID laws are racist is because poor POC don't have access to places where they can obtain ID's. They say that the those places (DMV's) are too far from where poor POC live. Or they don't have a ride.

Liberals say that voter ID laws are racist because they are too expensive.

Liberals say voter ID laws are racist because poor POC don't have access to the internet. They can't get ID's over the internet because they either can't afford internet service or if they do they can't understand how to use the internet.

Let's look at these arguments by facts and numbers the liberals bane. A lot of math follows so a lot of facts and figures below so don't say I didn't warn you.

Access to DMV's. Most poor Whites live in rural areas while most poor Blacks live in urban areas. So access to DMV's are harder for poor Whites. By the numbers. Rural areas are 79% white and 7.8 percent black. Other races make up the difference. 19.3% of the US population are in the rural areas. The US pop. guesstimate by the Census Bureau as of 7/1/21 is 331,893,745. So Whites make up 76.3% of the pop. while Blacks make up 13.4%. So Whites make up 48,874,341 in rural areas whereas Blacks make up 8,583,436 in rural areas. So Whites are more hampered by not having access to DMV's than are Blacks. People in the cities have more and closer DMV's than rural people. They also have access to public transportation in most if not all cities. Something not generally available in rural areas.

ID's being too expensive. Pop. of the US by people below the poverty line is 8.2 of the White population and 19.5 percent of the Black population. So that comes out to 20,765,526 Whites and 8,672,383 Blacks living below the poverty line. But Libs will say Blacks are much poorer than Whites in that below the poverty line demographic. So even if we cut in half the number of White poor to reflect that(completely arbitrary) there still is more poor Whites than Blacks. So who can't afford ID's? Last month I got a state issued ID from the state of Oregon. It cost me $40.50 for a 8 year ID. That's a little more then $5 a year. The cost argument is absurd.

Can't afford internet or can't understand the internet. We have already established poor Whites out number poor Blacks. So more whites can't afford the internet. As to not being able to understand how to use the internet. In essence you are saying that more Blacks don't have the mental capacity to use Internet than Whites. Talk about racist. I'm preaching to the choir here on this point.

In summation I find that indeed ID laws ARE racist. To Whites not Blacks.

I'm not saying these are all the arguments that Liberals make against voter ID laws. Or that every Liberal exposes these reasons. Though I have heard these reasons ID laws are racist from several Liberals. This is just the ones I'm familiar with. Libs, what are your arguments that aren't addressed in this OP. I will try and address them in this thread.






Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80330 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Last month I got a state issued ID from the state of Oregon. It cost me $40.50 for a 8 year ID. That's a little more then $5 a year. The cost argument is absurd.


They are free in Louisiana.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2055 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:42 pm to
Look, I lean liberal and I have no problem with ID laws. Let’s give a free state issued voter ID if someone doesn’t have a driver’s license. You remove the cost issue from the table.

I think a state should pass it to go into effect say one or two years after it passes to give people time to get one if they don’t have it. If you go to register and don’t have an ID, you can be given the forms there to fill out and submit. We can do this online. Let’s make it user friendly and streamline the process, but yes, I don’t know a good argument not to have voter ID required.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56017 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:43 pm to
Easy solution to that. Let the mailman carry a camera, person requests to some government agency a photo be taken so he/she can get a voter id. Agency contacts the post office, postman shows up while on his mail route, says cheese, you now have your picture taken.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
77140 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:44 pm to
The challenge was issued by many in conservative media to send any black person who did not know how to get an ID, get in touch with them and they would get them one.

I have yet to learn of one black person accepting the challenge.



White libs claim blacks can't get IDs, blacks say WTF (youtube vid)
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 4:15 am
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
773 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:46 pm to
I'm all for the things you stated.
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
773 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:48 pm to
Have not heard of that challenge. Thanks for that info.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

I have yet to learn of one black person accepting the challenge.

There were plenty of videos going around where reporters would ask black people about internet usage and voter ids, etc, and they thought it was absurd and insulting.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
4441 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:57 pm to
Interesting that I didn’t hear one single liberal say that it was racist to require everyone (blacks included) to show a vaccine ID in order to go to restaurants, bars, event venues, and many other public places in New Orleans, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, and Chicago over the last year or so.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2055 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

I'm all for the things you stated.


This to me is an easy problem to fix. It’s one of those situations where both sides have become so entrenched and calcified in their positions that one cannot admit the other is right. The right is correct on this. At the end of the day, voter ID laws will make a LOT of people feel better about our elections. That, in and of itself, has real value to the working of democracy in our country.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:18 pm to
The narrative that there are large amounts of adults who don’t have an ID is a lie. If you don’t have an ID, it would mean:
-You’ve never driven
-You’ve never bought cigarettes
-You’ve never bought beer or liquor
-You’ve never opened a bank account
-You’ve never flown on a plane
-You’ve never visited a doctor (who require ID and proof of insurance)
Etc
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3475 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:41 pm to
IDs are free in Alabama.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10858 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 1:43 am to
Would liberals rather we had Voter ID registrations held at abortion clinics?
Posted by Sundance
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
445 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:07 am to
It is all PC NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!
One has to have a photo id to:
Get on a plane.
Cash a check.
Make a bank withdrawal.
Register at a hotel.
BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Soc-Dims don't care who votes as long as it for the Collective!
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65917 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:21 am to
No one cares about rural whites. Or rural blacks for that matter.

It's as if rural folks choose where they get to live, whereas urban minorities are forced to live where they do.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28108 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:26 am to
Why can't they just use they Kroger card? Yall being racist!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33263 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:27 am to
In a very strange turn of events Biden’s primary campaign was actually bailed out precisely by “rural” blacks in South Carolina. But of note is the strong likelihood that some preacher men got paid handsomely to lead their flock to vote for Joe.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14781 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:51 am to
You could have said Dems lie and we would have known that. Would have saved a lot of typing
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
25181 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:02 am to
We all know the progfilth resistance to voter ID is absolutely rooted in election cheating
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