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Cypress lakes conditions
Posted on 4/13/22 at 6:24 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 6:24 am
Any of you guys members out there or have some insight into work being done out there? Played there Friday and was shocked at the condition of the greens, they’ve basically lost them. Rest of the course is beat up as well, but playable. Layout is fun, I hope they get those greens under control. For 60 bucks it’s really hard to justify that kind of condition.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 6:26 am
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 7:00 am to Swagga
Not a member but play there often. Greens have been getting progressively worse since Jan. They lost a bunch of trees in Ida but that really hasn’t made conditions worse. Not sure what they were trying to do by 5 & 7 with the huge area that is now all dirt. Like the layout but under current conditions unless it’s a Hot Deal, the price is too high.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 7:11 am to double d
The dirt by 5 and 7 is a result of when the parish dug out the ponds. The ponds on the course serve as drainage to that section of Ormond and the main path to the pumping station. Over the years they have almost silted in and had no depth to them so the parish came and dug alot of them out. The dirt mound was huge and now that the parish is done in that area, the dirt has been spread and will eventually be reclaimed ground. The greens have seen better days but they are improving. The poa annua was horrible but the good grass is starting to take over. Front 9 way better than back but still a work in progress. They have a new irrigation system that will be installed later this year that will surely help the overall conditions. The piping has been delivered but I believe they are waiting on the rest of the parts.
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 8:00 am to Swagga
Poa annua palace is never primo
Posted on 4/13/22 at 8:05 am to Swagga
$60 for that dump!?!? Wow
Posted on 4/13/22 at 8:34 am to Swagga
Jesse Duplantis prayed his most sincere prayer of his life over those greens, which explains their current state. I made a 40 footer for bird on 18 to take 2 members money. God don’t like ugly
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:11 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
it's been a while since i've played there but they were losing the greens at that time.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:58 am to Swagga
I grew up on Ormond. Whenever I go back, my dad is always bitching about the greens. So, this is an ongoing issue. Ida didn't do anyone any favors, though.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 11:08 am to Swagga
Yeah I went out there a couple weeks ago because of a $19 hot deal and I’m glad I didn’t pay more. Poa should be a relatively easy thing to fix but I doubt they have the manpower/$.
What’s a bit more concerning were the greens when I played bayou oaks last week. You can see poa popping up and some other grasses start to creep on the greens.
What’s a bit more concerning were the greens when I played bayou oaks last week. You can see poa popping up and some other grasses start to creep on the greens.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 9:55 pm to 3oliv3
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Poa should be a relatively easy thing to fix but I doubt they have the manpower/$
The Bosco’s are proud of their Poa, they think it’s like Pebble Beach
Posted on 4/14/22 at 10:27 pm to Swagga
Norco Night in the bar was lit tonight
Posted on 4/15/22 at 6:23 am to 3oliv3
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Poa should be a relatively easy thing to fix but I doubt they have the manpower/$
Poa is NOT an easy thing to fix, but if you have any insight please tell us. The whole Golf industry would love to know.
Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:19 am to Front9Bandit
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The Bosco’s are proud of their Poa, they think it’s like Pebble Beach
I can tell you for a fact that if it weren’t for “The Bosco’s” and the other investors who’s names you didn’t mention, that place at best would be a shithole but more than likely completely shut down. Before the new investors took over, the membership was on life support and the club was a ghost town. Anyone who has played there for a long period of time knows how far it’s come in improvements. They have thrown a lot of money at it and the improvements that have been made are being maintained and not just made and forgotten. I know that the greens are getting a lot of attention not only from “The Bosco's” but the entire maintenance group and the Poa is definitely not wanted. The results will follow. From a membership standpoint, the price of membership in comparison to the product you get (all club amenities) is an absolute value.
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 10:18 am
Posted on 4/16/22 at 11:11 am to jpggpj
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From a membership standpoint, the price of membership in comparison to the product you get (all club amenities) is an absolute value.
This line of thinking from ownership gets golf clubs in trouble all the time. No idea why more places don’t make it a priority to have great playing surfaces and then charge a premium for it.
Posted on 4/16/22 at 11:44 am to threeputt
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This line of thinking from ownership gets golf clubs in trouble all the time. No idea why more places don’t make it a priority to have great playing surfaces and then charge a premium for it.
I was referring more to everything that comes with membership not just the golf. Pool, gym, tennis court, spa, etc. I agree with what you are saying but it takes a lot of finances to get the conditions you are referring to on a course but yet there is still the rest of the club that needs to be managed as well. A country club will not stay afloat from green fees alone. That’s why membership is ultimately the motor that drives the vehicle. That being said, if you charge too much for a membership then you have a low turnout especially in smaller parishes. I have quite a few acquaintances in different country clubs that play critical roles in running them. It’s a very tough challenge these days to stay running.
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/16/22 at 12:53 pm to jpggpj
If you’re going to have a public course and not have it be a dump, you have got to invest in the conditioning of the course if you want people to play there. Or if you want a private club, you have got to invest in the conditioning of the course to have people willing to pony up more $ to be a member there. The condition of the course drives the finances of 99% of all courses
Posted on 4/16/22 at 1:37 pm to jpggpj
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. A country club will not stay afloat from green fees alone.
Whenever I hear this, it’s a tell tale sign of a failing club. How much you making from that weight room?
Posted on 4/16/22 at 1:41 pm to threeputt
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Whenever I hear this, it’s a tell tale sign of a failing club. How much you making from that weight room?
Clearly your not a business major. It’s about membership not one entity. And to have a supporting membership you have to have a product as Thib-a-doe described. Before this topic gets too derailed, I’m not trying to convince anyone to join Cypress. I was just responding to a post by Front 9 that mentioned an owners name and somewhat gave the impression to that the owner wasn’t trying to improve the course and liked the greens. I’m sure Front 9 was just making a joke and but when you mention a name that changes things. I’m a long standing member that can appreciate what the new ownership and investors are doing. It’s far from perfect but it’s a work in progress. Them along with the maintenance crew are really turning things around. Due to my relationships with certain people my eyes have been opened to what it takes to operate and maintain a country club. It’s extremely challenging in todays world. I can promise you it’s not failing but actually growing.
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/16/22 at 1:49 pm to jpggpj
I’m not. And maybe the goal there is not to make money but try to appeal to everyone. Fair enough if that’s the goal - but ownership will constantly keep spinning their wheels and never be super successful.
Just my two cents but currently they don’t understand what business they are in. If a big investment were made to improve course conditions and it is done properly they could double fees across the board (memberships and green fees). They would probably keep about 50 % of current members, pick up some new members and double the outside play. The net would be bringing in more money and cutting a lot of needless costs they have now.
Just my two cents but currently they don’t understand what business they are in. If a big investment were made to improve course conditions and it is done properly they could double fees across the board (memberships and green fees). They would probably keep about 50 % of current members, pick up some new members and double the outside play. The net would be bringing in more money and cutting a lot of needless costs they have now.
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 4/16/22 at 1:54 pm to threeputt
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double the outside play
This is true but remember…a lot of members do not embrace this. Some clubs have membership rates so high specifically to keep public play out. It’s great if you can have that kinda support from members but I like the lower membership and have outside play support. But I see what you are saying.
This post was edited on 4/16/22 at 2:13 pm
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