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I'm okay with teaching my kids America existed before 1776

Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:19 pm

Posted by lsugrad1980

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:19 pm

What's so bad about teaching kids in grade school the truth about indians and their history pre-arrival of Columbus? I was listening to Dan Carlin earlier on the slave trade and he brought up some interesting points. Now to be fair, yes the 1619 project has been debunked by ACTUAL HISTORIANS. However, this whole America started in 1776 is a bunch of bunk, too. That's ignoring 10,000 years of history before the time of Paul Revere!

You can't have it both ways by saying the Clovis people didn't exist either! Anyone who says critical race theory in response is just plain ignorant, doesn't understand history is complex or doesn't appreciate history from both sides like Dan Carlin does! I'm tired of history being taught by morons who don't appreciate the uncomfortable truth!

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Posted by Kafka

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:20 pm to lsugrad1980

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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:22 pm to lsugrad1980

Every single American history class begins with initial exploration, and the Chesapeake colony and Puritan colonies.

Where did you go to school??

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Posted by GeauxTigerTM

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:23 pm to lsugrad1980

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What's so bad about teaching kids in grade school the truth about indians and their history pre-arrival of Columbus?

Nothing...who said it is?

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However, this whole America started in 1776 is a bunch of bunk, too.

This is quite literally true. History took place on this continent long before that, but "America" started in 1776.

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Anyone who says critical race theory in response is just plain ignorant, doesn't understand history is complex or doesn't appreciate history from both sides like Dan Carlin does!

Is this why this alter account was created? Oh...proceed on your own.

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Posted by Bridget O

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:27 pm to lsugrad1980

We DID learn about European history and the Era of Exploration in school along with the first American settlements through to 20th century history. . Were you not paying attention? Was there no mention of LGBTQZX so it doesn’t count? Wow.

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Posted by Jack Carter

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:27 pm to lsugrad1980

Did you ride the short bus to school?

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Posted by RollTide1987

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:29 pm to lsugrad1980

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What's so bad about teaching kids in grade school the truth about indians and their history pre-arrival of Columbus?

Nothing. The problem is most of the historical record regarding the native tribes of the Americas is almost all archeological. We do not have a reliable narrative for the vast majority of the tribes who populated North and South America pre-Columbus. Most native histories are oral and contain a lot of mythology.

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Posted by drichtigers

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:31 pm to lsugrad1980

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I'm tired of history being taught by morons who don't appreciate the uncomfortable truth!

Same. Why are people so afraid to acknowledge the word “slave” actually originated from the word “Slavs” when Muslims began enslaving white people thousands of years ago? You’d swear slavery was invented by white Europeans in America when in reality it was practiced since the advent of mankind until America led the crusade in abolishing it across the world.

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Posted by WildManGoose

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:31 pm to lsugrad1980

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doesn't understand history is complex or doesn't appreciate history from both sides like Dan Carlin

What are you even arguing? Are you saying that the United States of America existed before 1776 or that there are people who don't believe that the continent of North America existed before 1776?

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Posted by HempHead

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:34 pm to lsugrad1980

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That's ignoring 10,000 years of history before the time of Paul Revere!

Any chance you can point me towards the historical record? TIA

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Posted by TidenUP

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:38 pm to WildManGoose

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Are you saying that the United States of America existed before 1776 or that there are people who don't believe that the continent of North America existed before 1776?

I believe that is where he's going with it. The poor, dumb bastard is combining the continent with the country and making a really dumb argument from that incorrect assertion.

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Posted by LSU82BILL

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:42 pm to lsugrad1980

Yep….and 1776 America has a whole lot in common with 2022 Ukraine.

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Posted by Padme

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:43 pm to lsugrad1980

You have to be a white woman who hates white men.

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Posted by udtiger

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!

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Every single American history class begins with initial exploration, and the Chesapeake colony and Puritan colonies

Actually, a few days are spent on pre-Columbian societies, as well as developments in Europe that influenced colonization.

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Posted by little billy

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:50 pm to lsugrad1980

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That's ignoring 10,000 years of history before the time of Paul Revere

Recorded human history goes back about 5000 years

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Posted by HempHead

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:57 pm to little billy

I wonder if the Brits teach about the Iceni, Brythons, Caledonians, etc., that so peacefully inhabited the fair island up until those rascally Romans conquered it, who then invited Saxons, Jutes, and Angles to pacify and administer it, who later got invaded by their distant Frisian, Norwegian, and Swedish cousins...who then got invaded by THEIR cousins, the Normans.

Man, when you really look at it, it's almost as if human history is replete with examples of invasion, subjugation, and dissipation.

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Posted by nealnan8

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:58 pm to GeauxTigerTM

America started in 1776? It depends on what you mean by "started", and actually what you mean by "America". The United States Of America started in 1776, but the name America was given to name the New World in 1570. This term was also applied to the South American continent by a cartographer named Waldsemuller, in honor of Amerigo Vespucci.

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Posted by DesScorp

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 4:02 pm to lsugrad1980

"LSUGrad"

bullshite

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Posted by Ricardo

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 4:03 pm to lsugrad1980

Look man. I know you think you're being funny, but you're not. frick off.

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Posted by DamnGood86

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Posted on 4/3/22 at 4:06 pm to lsugrad1980

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I'm tired of history being taught by morons who don't appreciate the uncomfortable truth!

I am no LSU grad, but I bet it can get a little tricky trying to teach the history of a prehistoric time, especially for a moron.

Prehistoric:
"relating to or denoting the period before written records."

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