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Surprising baseball stats
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:25 pm
A friend refered me to the site beings I had only watched 3 games thus far this season. I was asking about the game between lsu/tech. So here's my first post.
A stat I found interesting because all I heard was that hitting would be a plus this year. Well, I looked on the raw data and found that against actual competiton, lsu is 3-6 vs good teams. The team batting average for these 9 games are .239. Not exactly a hitting squad. A .239 team average combined with what 40 errors so far.
I remember lsu being 1-8 in the sec last year before they put together a small run and got to a super regional. Normally, you improve from the year before but it seems like the team isn't improving. A 15-6 record is very deceiving.
A stat I found interesting because all I heard was that hitting would be a plus this year. Well, I looked on the raw data and found that against actual competiton, lsu is 3-6 vs good teams. The team batting average for these 9 games are .239. Not exactly a hitting squad. A .239 team average combined with what 40 errors so far.
I remember lsu being 1-8 in the sec last year before they put together a small run and got to a super regional. Normally, you improve from the year before but it seems like the team isn't improving. A 15-6 record is very deceiving.
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:26 pm to Required
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The team batting average for these 9 games are .239
Small sample size and involves alot of early season tinkering
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:28 pm to Required
Our best hitters are struggling against anyone with a pulse,they are bound to improve,the errors will improve,we will be what everyone should have expected which is a middle of the road SEC team until we slowly acquire pitchers to build a staff.It will take 2-3 seasons to build a winning program with the lack of arm talent we have.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:32 pm to Required
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I remember lsu being 1-8 in the sec last year before they put together a small run and got to a super regional. Normally, you improve from the year before but it seems like the team isn't improving.
Are we talking hitting only?
LSU replaced 75% of it's rotation from 2021.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:58 pm to Adam4848
The whole team. The amount of errors are staggering and hitting average against decent teams is a small example of what to expect maybe going through the sec?
Every lsu team starts with new decent pitching each year and improved the next year, mostly. Pitchers who gave decent innings last year who returned don't seem to have improved so far this year. Really thought 4 or 5 pitchers who had positive seasons last year would improve this year but they haven't. Coleman excluded because he is injured.
Every lsu team starts with new decent pitching each year and improved the next year, mostly. Pitchers who gave decent innings last year who returned don't seem to have improved so far this year. Really thought 4 or 5 pitchers who had positive seasons last year would improve this year but they haven't. Coleman excluded because he is injured.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:07 pm to Required
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Well, I looked on the raw data and found that against actual competiton, lsu is 3-6 vs good teams.
Umm...that's not raw data.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:07 pm to Required
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Normally, you improve from the year before but it seems like the team isn't improving.
We lost essentially our entire weekend rotation. Go ask Landon Marceaux how he would feel if we got 4-5 runs in a game he pitched. In our 6 losses this season, we average 5 runs scored. Marceaux was losing games 3-0, 3-1, 4-1 etc last year.
With decent (*last years*) pitching, our run production probably has us with maybe 2 losses all year.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:14 pm to Required
Would you mind listing what teams you’re defining as “good”?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:24 pm to Terrific Tales
I'm guessing those in our peer group:
La Tech
OU
TX
Baylor
A&M
La Tech
OU
TX
Baylor
A&M
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:26 pm to AlwysATgr
Tis only 8 games in that group no?
ETA: I’m just gonna assume Tulane is the 9th
ETA: I’m just gonna assume Tulane is the 9th
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:27 pm to Required
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I looked on the raw data
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lsu is 3-6 vs good teams
You actually cherry picked the data.
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A .239 team average combined with what 40 errors so far.
Only used batting average against what you consider good teams, but include all games for defense.
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I remember lsu being 1-8 in the sec last year before they put together a small run and got to a super regional.
We won as many games in the first series this year as we did in the first three series last year.
Johnson signed the number one class and actually got them to enroll. Some of our hitting has been good, but just being hit right at them like Morgan’s whole season.
When we win the first series the Rant thinks we are world beaters and will win 60 games. After the first SEC series he’s ever coached the Rant is ready to fire him. Johnson May end up not being the guy, but maybe we can give him more than one conference series before writing him off.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:32 pm to josh336
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Small sample size and involves alot of early season tinkering
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:38 pm to josh336
No issues with early season tinkering. But it's beyond conventional tinkering to keep Doughty at 2B and Berry at 3B or RF.
FTR, CJJ didn't inherit the team that started 1-8 in SEC play. He inherited the team that was in a super regional last year with 7 of 8 positions returning.
We basically traded Marceaux and AJ for Berry, Cooper, and Collins.
Instead of using these games to sort out pitching roles which was inevitable, we're so messed up in the field who knows.
FTR, CJJ didn't inherit the team that started 1-8 in SEC play. He inherited the team that was in a super regional last year with 7 of 8 positions returning.
We basically traded Marceaux and AJ for Berry, Cooper, and Collins.
Instead of using these games to sort out pitching roles which was inevitable, we're so messed up in the field who knows.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:44 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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We won as many games in the first series this year as we did in the first three series last year.
When we started last season we had like two starters who had even set foot in an SEC game (Gio, who was hurt, Dugas played some in '19, Bianco, and Beloso).
We were legitimately young last year. And didn't we open with State, Vandy, and UTenn?
I get why we were 1-8 last year. No excuses for the mess thus far this year.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:17 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:you want me to count Southern, Maine, Bethune or Towson? Na.
actually cherry picked the data.
That hitting average against good teams/sec teams is what has occurred at .239 and maybe a precursor to what will be during the sec gauntlet. I hope not but lsu only actually improved in hitting last night hitting a .343 average as a team I think against teams that count.
quote:yes because many of these errors are/were happening against easily inferior teams. When the pressure(what pressure actually) is on, I assume it may or may not get better. This is why I included good teams only for hitting and all teams for defensive errors. This has significance to what lsu has shown so far. I mean why count a player/teams hitting average against weak teams and the fact that lsu is kicking it around against weaker teams is a serious flag. Let's see what happens at Florida. LSU is supposed to compete against Florida right?
but include all games for defense.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:44 pm to Required
.239 for a 9 game sample of mostly based games isn’t really that terrible
SEC average in conference play last year was around .270 and those 9 teams average to a similar ranking to an average SEC team
If you just remove the Baylor game it goes to .250
There just isn’t near a high enough sample size to use these kind of statistics yet
SEC average in conference play last year was around .270 and those 9 teams average to a similar ranking to an average SEC team
If you just remove the Baylor game it goes to .250
There just isn’t near a high enough sample size to use these kind of statistics yet
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:49 pm to Required
Haven’t watched a ton of games so far, but the little I’ve watched it looks like our hitters have not adjusted to the higher strikes getting called.
Pretty sure it’s due to the Trackman umpire grading stuff. But the fastball above the belt has been a ball at the higher levels for a while and now that it’s getting called a strike, our guys seem to look at it more times than not. Look like good pitches to hit but historically a ball so they take it.
Pretty sure it’s due to the Trackman umpire grading stuff. But the fastball above the belt has been a ball at the higher levels for a while and now that it’s getting called a strike, our guys seem to look at it more times than not. Look like good pitches to hit but historically a ball so they take it.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:29 pm to JustHere4OB
quote:I would imagine that if this is happening, it will be as hard to adjust to a high strike(actually deciding to swing after years of being taught to lay off that pitch)above the belt as it is to hit one that cuts right below the knees(for success). Trackman as far as the wider zone to me isn't sound. It could be, if technology would allow good coaches to correctly set the standard for a correct strike zone. I can't see coaches ever creating this wider zone as something they like at the moment. Problem is, every good hitting coach in America that teaches a good, correct swing is contradicting to the trackman technology because of the wider zone, fundamentally(above the belt strike) a bad pitch to swing at.
Trackman umpire grading stuff.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:42 pm to Required
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fundamentally(above the belt strike) a bad pitch to swing at.
Maybe at the armpits (ooolllddd zone)
91 a couple inches above the belt is meat for most of these guys. But it has been a ball with most umpires for at least 25+ years. It was definitley getting called a strike in the 3 games I’ve watched.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:43 pm to dmatt2021
Yeah, pitching is lacking. It's been a let down so far.
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