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We are seeing signs of a bottoming process in the market

Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:11 pm
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:11 pm
For those that have been sitting on some cash it is time to start lurking and picking spots. Great opportunities ahead. Growth is likely still trading sideways for a bit but a lot of opportunities soon. Key indicators are starting to turn bullish.

Recent positions I’ve taken

M
CVE

Think growth comes back to life 2H22

Ride value for a few more months



Posted by TygerLyger
Member since Mar 2022
31 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:29 am to
Two more years of Biden. We can fall alot further.
Posted by mikesores
Member since Oct 2021
4 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 4:00 am to
Thanks for this interesting information!
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15770 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 4:47 am to
Dammit you jinxed it! Down big by end of day.

Updated:
Glad i was wrong
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
4055 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 6:10 am to
Picking up companies at prices I like right now for the long term. Short term prices still seem a little heavy, but who knows.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 6:10 am
Posted by WM88
West Monroe
Member since Aug 2004
1961 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 1:41 pm to
My issue is the housing bubble. When they raise interest rates enough, there will be significantly less sales of houses and less appreciation of real estate. It could even cause prices to fall.

The dominos here could be very nasty.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 3:19 pm to
My firm forecasted this movement weeks ago and positioned accordingly.

Short term bottom and rally. There's extreme price resistance ahead to stop a prolonged rally and will be a time to sell.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15770 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

My firm forecasted this movement weeks ago and positioned accordingly.

Short term bottom and rally. There's extreme price resistance ahead to stop a prolonged rally and will be a time to sell.


Well then how's about a heads up on the time to sell
I'm finally pushing green again or close to it.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 4:49 pm to
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My issue is the housing bubble. When they raise interest rates enough, there will be significantly less sales of houses and less appreciation of real estate. It could even cause prices to fall.



Rate hikes projected to top out around 2.5% -- hardly enough to crush housing market demand, and will have zero effect on the supply-side dynamics that are driving current appreciation.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 6:11 pm to
I work in single family development with well known national and local builders. The starting price for a new build in my area (DFW) is $450k. Even with all the out of state transplants we’re getting that have cash to buy, that price for a “starter home” just doesn’t seem sustainable to me. An average 2 income family with a kid or two is going to have to really stretch their budget to pay that mortgage.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32687 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 7:54 pm to
Bear market rally. Hard and fast, but will capitulate to new lows soon
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:12 pm to
Damn I got the most dislikes ever. Even more conviction to my position. Chop for another month. Buy high sell low
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:14 pm to
My baw. This did not happen
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15770 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 4:02 am to
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Damn I got the most dislikes ever. Even more conviction to my position. Chop for another month. Buy high sell low


Did pick up few shares of M based on this thread. For this i salute you
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:56 pm to
Did you happen to follow SQ this week? I can’t remember when I’ve seen such a powerful straight up move extend over several days.

Rough time to be short call spreads (that had looked completely safe on Monday). I can sure tell you that.
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:44 pm to
SQ is actually one of the growth stocks that looks decent. Broke above range last week. I didn’t do anything on it though. Seems we are seeing good levels to trade against though. Time to push some chips in
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Two more years of Biden. We can fall alot further


Just lol. And I’m not a Biden guy by any means. Blows my mind how many ppl think politics has to do with the market. Disregard the news, turn off CNBC , look at price action and money flows and you’ll be fine
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5830 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 1:04 am to
I don’t disagree and there are many factors affecting the real estate market right now, but I think it’s become clear that the primary driver of sustained single family housing appreciation is lack of supply, like an earlier poster said. Moderate rate hikes may slow the appreciation and cool the market slightly over the next half a year or so, but I don’t know that it will stop it anytime soon. Supply chain and labor issues continue to drive up the cost of materials/products and the time required to manufacture and that continues to increase the cost to build. The cost to buy is at least loosely correlated to the cost to build, and that effect is multiplied when you have a serious lack of inventory. At the very least, the ~1 year future of the housing market is anybody’s guess.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53596 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:15 am to
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. Blows my mind how many ppl think politics has to do with the market. Disregard the news, turn off CNBC , look at price action and money flows and you’ll be fine


I've never understood this line of thinking. I see people say it with gas and prices in general.

The mans administration has an agenda. If they impose tariffs, get into further trade disagreements, sanctions etc, how does that NOT cause an increase in goods/materials
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9550 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:09 pm to
Bottoming? ….. hardly.

Still another 15% to go ….. mebbe more. There is no “blood in the streets” yet by any stretch of the definition.

Historically speaking, market cap/GDP remains about 60% higher than its historical mean, ..... about 40% higher than it was prior to the 2008 crash, and about 25% higher than the previous top it had made prior to the DotCom bust in 2000.

In other words, there is still the potential for continued erosion lower .... and market participants would do well to remind themselves of just how insane this bull market has been over the last 14 years.

The highest risk right now is for the retail, buy-the-dip investor that has not experienced similar conditions like in 2000 and 2007.

I have much scar tissue from those two episodes ..... and I hope some of you can learn from my mistakes so that you don't have to learn these lessons the way I did. We experienced bear market rallies in both of those corrections .... and I suspect that is what we are experiencing currently.

Be careful out there, baws ..... manage your risk and keep some dry powder. G/L

This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 2:29 pm
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