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Is Jester a coward for diving below the hard deck during that first dogfight?

Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:55 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:55 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78242 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:56 am to
Yes. Next question.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9282 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:58 am to
Yes. Not willing to take the L so he pusses out.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16665 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 12:01 pm to
That part always really bothered me in the movie. Why didn't Jester get in trouble as well for going below the hard deck? I don't remember Viper telling him he broke a major rule of engagement
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3911 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 12:06 pm to
Jester should have been considered destroyed as soon as be broke the hard deck and Maverick awarded the points.

Jester had no chest.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7615 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 12:09 pm to
Yes he was...totally Pussy..

And...


Mr. Miyagi kicked his arse also:

LINK
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14378 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 12:24 pm to
No, Jester was not a coward. He tested Maverick’s response to a real life danger that has killed many pilots - getting fixated on their targets and losing situational awareness. There was no excuse for Maverick to go below the hard deck once Jester died by doing so himself. Maverick learned a valuable lesson that day.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4447 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 1:11 pm to
Hard deck is considered ground, so Jester would be dead. Maverick was an idiot to follow, but his pride forced him to pursue the actual kill. It would be like shooting a jet that was already a smoking heap on the ground.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89787 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:03 pm to
No. He was cheating because he was beaten.

"Coward"? Nobody who does that for a living is a coward.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
4724 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:15 pm to
Jester completely pussied out and Maverick was 100% correct in chasing that pussy below the hard deck and finishing him off. There ain't no hard deck in real combat!!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99799 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:19 pm to
yes.

pussy
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2151 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:42 pm to
I always took it as they were testing Maverick’s ability to follow orders. They knew he could fly with the best of them, but could he be trusted to stick to the mission.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
2867 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:39 pm to
Penny Benjamin was Jesters 2nd cousin. He had a hard on for Maverick for years.

He’s a coward.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31050 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:31 pm to
Technically, from what I've read, diving below the hard deck is the equivalent of slamming your plane into the ground.

Someone did a good write-up on it. Intentionally going below the hard deck is considered an automatic loss, but you get warnings if you get close and a lot of times they just reset the dogfight if it's unintentional.

Basically Maverick chasing him to the hard deck was a race to see who could slam into the ground the fastest.



That being said, they used the hard deck incorrectly - they state that "there will be no engagement below the hard deck", implying it's a safe zone. I guess that's technically true, as your opponent just kamikazed himself to avoid you getting the kill.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:48 pm to
Yea he was a pussy and didn't want to take an L.
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:29 pm to
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