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re: Dunkin’ Employee Fatally Punches Man who Used Racial Slur, Charged and Sentenced
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Meh, he's a 27 year old without a criminal record who was employed at DD. He strikes me as the type to have regret and learn plenty from this, but maybe I'm wrong.
In a reasonable world nobody thinks Pujols is a genuinely bad actor and nobody thinks the old cur is a true victim. The reason this is controversial is because if the 27 year old was white and knocked out/killed a 77 year old POS black guy who was berating everyone, it'd be a national story and no way the 27 year old gets off so easily. That's unjust, but in a vacuum, the punishment here is probably fine.
In a reasonable world nobody thinks Pujols is a genuinely bad actor and nobody thinks the old cur is a true victim. The reason this is controversial is because if the 27 year old was white and knocked out/killed a 77 year old POS black guy who was berating everyone, it'd be a national story and no way the 27 year old gets off so easily. That's unjust, but in a vacuum, the punishment here is probably fine.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:23 pm to Pettifogger
I’m not suggesting lock him away forever but they did nothing to him.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:30 pm to Pettifogger
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The reason this is controversial is because if the 27 year old was white and knocked out/killed a 77 year old POS black guy who was berating everyone, it'd be a national story and no way the 27 year old gets off so easily. That's unjust, but in a vacuum, the punishment here is probably fine.
Excellently said! No pettyfogging in THAT statement!
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:31 pm to Pettifogger
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Meh, he's a 27 year old without a criminal record who was employed at DD. He strikes me as the type to have regret and learn plenty from this, but maybe I'm wrong.
You may be right, but there's nothing in the article indicating any of that. They simply suggested he was young, when at 27 he'd be in the prime of his athletic career as a professional athlete if that was his thing...and that the sounds the old guy made were so horrendous that it basically warranted this kind of reaction.
The second part of the that scares the living shite out of me. Not because I'm white, but because I actually fully believe in free speech. I don't think there are any magic words, or words so bad that merely uttering them means the likelihood of being killed. No one should be given carte blanche ability to attack anyone because they said words you don't like. But this was the inevitable conclusion of "silence is violence." If simply remaining SILENT can be declared violence towards another, then that person attacking you is no longer an attack it's DEFENSIVE! So clearly having the audacity to say "the word that shall not be uttered by whitey" is grounds for being killed.
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In a reasonable world nobody thinks Pujols is a genuinely bad actor and nobody thinks the old cur is a true victim.
I think the old guy was probably a shite head and a racist. I think the 27 year old man who hit him let the fact that we've basically said it's ok to do so if certain sounds are made cloud his judgement and he hit an elderly man causing his death. So yeah, the elderly a-hole is the true victim here and the 27 year old man who hit him because he said something he didn't like is the bad actor. He punched and killed a 77 year old man who had not laid a finger on him...just said words at him.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:53 pm to Pettifogger
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In a reasonable world nobody thinks Pujols is a genuinely bad actor
He punched an old man to death for saying words. He shouldn’t have done that and there is no excuse.
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nobody thinks the old cur is a true victim.
If being an a-hole was a death sentence the world may be a better place. But it’s not, it’s a shitty place. If the old man was still around a simple video of what he did would result in his life being worse off than the man’s that killed him.
Oh he didn’t mean to kill him? Well what did he mean to do? He meant to punch an old man.
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He strikes me as the type to have regret and learn plenty from this, but maybe I'm wrong.
What reason do we have to believe you are right?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 4:21 pm to Pettifogger
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but in a vacuum, the punishment here is probably fine.
Wow, I hope you never accidentally say something to offend someone. You could be murdered for it and half of you thing this is ok?
Where do you draw the line? Which words from which languages are acceptable to murder people for saying?
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