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re: Did Trump cause the Libertarian party to go to Shite?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:31 pm to AldoRaine45
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:31 pm to AldoRaine45
Libertarian Party has always been dog shite. Little l libertarians for life!
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:29 am to AldoRaine45
This guy was a close 2nd to Jorgensen, and just eeked by "no preference" 
Unfortunately, any libertarian candidate that is serious about winning ends up joining a major party, where they eventually have to pay political service to stay in the game. There's just too much momentum in the machine for a legit Libertarian party to make any progress.
Unfortunately, any libertarian candidate that is serious about winning ends up joining a major party, where they eventually have to pay political service to stay in the game. There's just too much momentum in the machine for a legit Libertarian party to make any progress.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:59 am to WildManGoose
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There's just too much momentum in the machine for a legit Libertarian party to make any progress.
More libertarian happy horseshite. Momentum works just fine when your ideas aren’t idiotic, and put people and kids in danger.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:05 am to AldoRaine45
The functional adults split to form the tea party over decade ago. The next mass exodus is coming in 2 years and those loses were made up with “I’m the smartest person in the room liberals” that pretend they are not liberals.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:08 am to AldoRaine45
Just like every other area of political uselessness and corruption, Trump didn't cause it, he just exposed them. Liberrarian Party is a bunch of feckless, drugged up turds.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:10 am to AldoRaine45
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Also Gary Johnson seemed to set the party in a shitty direction
What? The former GOP governor with his former GOP governor VP who ran around saying "Piss on Christians, bake the queer cake"?
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:16 am to AldoRaine45
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Libertarian party
Will never be relevant as long as they only show up nine months before a presidential election every four years.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:20 am to NOLAVOL16
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Does that disqualify him from getting my vote?
Yes. Liberty of conscience/religious liberty is fundamental. And he didn't just "try to thread the needle." He repeated it over and over.If he wants to suck leftist dick, there's already a party for that. Unless the LP is going on the record that freedom of association is not a part of their platform any more. But that's going to piss off all the open borders wienies.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 7:21 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:30 am to troyt37
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Personal liberty doesn’t scare anyone
After two years of lockdowns, isolation, and masks, how can you possibly say that personal Liberty doesn’t scare anyone? If anything, I’d say that personal Liberty scares the absolute frick out of 75% of the country.
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it’s the fact that so many use it as an excuse to harm others, and turn their back on real dangers.
And that’s the excuse they used to take away our liberties during the ‘pandemic’ and the ‘war on terror’.
Say whatever you want, but there’s NO WAY a Libertarian POTUS buries us in debt, bailouts, lockdowns, and foreign wars like the Rs and Ds have. That’s a fact.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 7:32 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:33 am to Homesick Tiger
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Will never be relevant
FIFY. Our election system does not allow for viable third parties over the course of multiple elections. It will always be a two party system unless we change some of the rules.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:34 am to Aubie Spr96
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Say whatever you want, but there’s NO WAY a Libertarian POTUS buries us in debt, bailouts, lockdowns, and foreign wars like the Rs and Ds have. That’s a fact.
So your fantasy Libertarian President also has a Libertarian majority in both houses of Congress? Now your fantasies are really getting wild.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:51 am to Aubie Spr96
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After two years of lockdowns, isolation, and masks, how can you possibly say that personal Liberty doesn’t scare anyone? If anything, I’d say that personal Liberty scares the absolute frick out of 75% of the country.
Maybe that makes sense to you. I didn't lock down, didn't isolate, and only masked when I flew. I can see personal liberty maybe making politicians uncomfortable, but they are a tiny percentage. I suspect what you call personal liberty, I call abusing kids and putting others in danger.
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And that’s the excuse they used to take away our liberties during the ‘pandemic’
And the pushback started as soon as people realized that it was not about keeping people safe.
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and the ‘war on terror’.
Yeah, the Patriot Act is unconstitutional. But I'm perfectly fine making war on those who kill innocents.
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Say whatever you want, but there’s NO WAY a Libertarian POTUS buries us in debt, bailouts, lockdowns, and foreign wars like the Rs and Ds have. That’s a fact.
Maybe. But maybe you should consider what would happen as the yen or the ruble or the euro became the world currency, as we withdraw from the rest of the world.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:54 am to AldoRaine45
Gary Johnson didn’t cause the libertarian party to go in the wrong direction it was that damn Jo Jorgensen. She ran for President just to say she did. Worst libertarian candidate in a long time. Gary Johnson got 3.3% of the national vote which was the most ever for a libertarian.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 7:57 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:55 am to OMLandshark
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As a libertarian, when has the Libertarian Party even been passable, nevertheless good or great?
this. the moment they tried to sell gary johnson...i was out. they honestly dont want to win elections.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:11 am to Seldom Seen
Most, if not all, bad things in this country were caused by, or because of, the government's greed and power. Period.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:19 am to AldoRaine45
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It seems like most of the libertarian conservatives who voted Trump ditched that party
Trump isn't libertarian nor conservative.
What happened is a bunch of pretend libertarians got fooled by Trump, now regret it.
Libertarians aren't trying to install a libertarian govt anymore. They are just trying to keep your type from destroying the country.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 8:21 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:21 am to AldoRaine45
libertarianism is a CIA psyop intended to move the GOP away from social conservatism
eta: and ultimately undermine the church and western society
eta: and ultimately undermine the church and western society
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 8:28 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:25 am to AldoRaine45
Libertarians never had a viable party. Just an “every four year wonder” that emerged from obscurity every 4 years to nominate somebody for Pres, beat their breasts, then fold back into futile obscurity after the election. Until next 4 years cycle. Rinse and repeat.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:37 am to troyt37
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we withdraw from the rest of the world.
What does this even mean? Just because the Libertarian foreign policy is 'non-intervention' doesn't mean we are isolationist. Free trade and not sending our military around the world for every cause-of-the-day is not isolationism.
Again, if the last 20 years has taught us anything, it should be that sending our troops around the globe to kill people we don't like has not paid off. Ukraine is just the latest example of this failed policy.
And just because you and I didn't wear a mask, doesn't mean that the gov't and businesses didn't require them for everywhere you went. Every governor in America suspended civil liberties in response including Desantis.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:23 am to Aubie Spr96
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What does this even mean? Just because the Libertarian foreign policy is 'non-intervention' doesn't mean we are isolationist. Free trade and not sending our military around the world for every cause-of-the-day is not isolationism.
You and I both know it goes beyond non-intervention. We both know that libertarians and marxist democrats share the formula for smaller government, which is to decimate our military. And while I’m in complete agreement that the world police shite must stop, projecting our power around the world is in fact the biggest factor in keeping bad actors in check.
Non-intervention often means that trading partners will look to other buyers who can and will provide security in exchange for the commerce. It means just what I said, withdrawing from the world. And any number of other powers are more than happy to fill that void.
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Again, if the last 20 years has taught us anything, it should be that sending our troops around the globe to kill people we don't like has not paid off. Ukraine is just the latest example of this failed policy.
Europe allowing Russia to take them by the balls with oil and gas trade has absolutely nothing to do with our foreign policy. If Russia doesn’t have “frick you” leverage over the big players in Europe, they aren’t killing Ukrainians right now. But it is nice to see libertarians sharing the marxist democrat philosophy of blaming the US for everything that is wrong in the world.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 9:27 am
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