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Contractors blame 'toxic' relationship with City Hall for New Orleans road work delays

Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:03 am
Posted by frequent flyer
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Member since Jul 2021
3382 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:03 am
Shocking. New Orleans city government can't answer emails and phone calls when contractors and maintenance teams encounter unexpected or unplanned problems during roadwork.

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Contractors blame 'toxic' relationship with City Hall for New Orleans road work delays



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With New Orleans officials poised to crack down on road-work contractors for the half-finished projects clogging up city streets, industry representatives are pointing an accusatory finger back at City Hall.

During a City Council hearing Thursday, the regional manager for the Louisiana Associated General Contractors said that foot-dragging from bureaucrats leaves projects stalled – not industry incompetence.

When contractors rip up roads and discover unforeseen issues, they can wait months for word on how to proceed, and the lack of communication between the city and contractors has grown so serious that the relationship is best described as “toxic,” said Andre Kelly, who doubled down on those points under questioning from District A Council member Joe Giarrusso.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:04 am to
Least surprising news ever.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51898 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:04 am to
I am shocked
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37139 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:05 am to
This isn’t an issue anywhere else in the State. I believe the contractors 100%
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:10 am to
Contractors should find a way to relay the message to local taxpayers.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:14 am to
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Contractors should find a way to relay the message to local taxpayers.



I'm amazed that any journalist would write an article that doesn't shower dysfunctional progressive bureaucrats with praise and admiration. It's so rare to see a newspaper article that tries to get to the bottom of a story rather than just spreading their bullshite agenda.

Maybe there is some hope for that industry.....
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171951 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:14 am to
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This isn’t an issue anywhere else in the State. I believe the contractors 100%


Fair, but most of the rest of the state didn't have FEMA money put on hold.

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Former officials under Landrieu have said previously that the city has a Dec. 31, 2023, deadline to wrap up the FEMA-funded projects.


I think the bigger mistake the city has made has been starting all of these at the same time. Not many places are at a completed stage, but we have all these projects that are like 10% done. Not to mention places that have the road work completed then the S&WB come and tear the new road up to work their part. It seems the issues, including this apparent lack of communication, all stem from trying to do everything at once instead of progressively working through the city.

I keep hearing that once this work is done, the roads will be about as good as they've ever been or better. I hope it's worth it, but it seems someone needs to get their shite together.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:15 am to
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:21 am to
quote:

This isn’t an issue anywhere else in the State. I believe the contractors 100%


New Orleans probably has a lot of unmapped and undocumented gas lines, drainage lines, etc. And most are probably not in good shape.

So it wouldn't surprise me if a contractor is brought out to rework a catch basin and ends up finding a whole bunch of other things wrong.....then requests information or guidance from the city, who in turn ignores them entirely. Because New Orleans government's primary focus is to create paychecks, not to serve the taxpayers.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
13587 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:31 am to
What a cringy video/gif.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73144 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:33 am to
This shite is out of control.
The Walmsley corridor is a disaster.
Near Audobon Park, near Riverbend, Gentilly, Lakeview by Gen Diaz. So many areas they just ripped up blocks and let it sit.
I've never seen anything like it.

Uptown is by far the worst though. Yes they needed streets fixed but you have to have a plan to install new streets after you tear the old ones out.
Some areas it has been months with no work done.
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Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26387 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:38 am to
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Some areas it has been months with no work done.



Reminds me of my time living in Memphis. Only worse.

MLGW dug a 6' deep hole in our yard, then decided that they need to dig in the street instead. Then left both holes open for about 4 months.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7544 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:41 am to
New Orleans is governed like Luanda, Angola. Change my mind.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26387 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:44 am to
Destroya would essentially be committing suicide if she jumped from her confidence to her intelligence quotient.
Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
2072 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:46 am to
This explains a lot actually.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24836 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:49 am to
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when contractors and maintenance teams encounter unexpected or unplanned problems during roadwork


How often can this really happen in a city as old as New Orleans? These contractors are just blaming the poor mayor and her administration. the evil capitalist contractors...
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1734 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:54 am to
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Reminds me of my time living in Memphis. Only worse.

I despise the monopoly that is MLGW more than anyone; that being said I’ll give their road crews credit where it’s due, they’ve seriously surprised me in the past few years. They tore up Cooper from Central to Poplar about 18 months ago and I swear they had it repaved and finished in less than 10 days. Having watched HWY 42 sit torn up by my parents in Prairieville for years and years, it blew my mind how quick they finished.

The way they handled the recent ice storm outages dropped them right back down to bottom of the barrel for me though.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68754 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:55 am to
I know this isn't talked about much, but fixing streets is furthering white supremacy.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5594 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:55 am to
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I think the bigger mistake the city has made has been starting all of these at the same time. Not many places are at a completed stage, but we have all these projects that are like 10% done. Not to mention places that have the road work completed then the S&WB come and tear the new road up to work their part. It seems the issues, including this apparent lack of communication, all stem from trying to do everything at once instead of progressively working through the city.


I can tell you that I am directly involved in this work. What you are saying is poo poo. Example:
-met with the owner of one of these contractors yesterday adn the city owes him over $4M. Dating back 18 months. he has signed and approved by the city and the consulting eng. yet he cannot get paid.

starting too many jobs is not the issue. the problem no one wants to talk about is that the city has had this money for YEARS. the politicians have not figured a way to steal too much of it, and with a deadline, they need to use the money before they lose it. If congress goes back to the republicans, and there is another natural disaster anywhere in the country, i can see this money being put to work somewhere else.

soem jobs are patchwork projects, some are complete rebuilds...meaning drain, sewer, water, pavement. the only thing that the city has done correctly is that they NOW minimize situations that new construction is torn up.

in defense of the city, consulting engineers are lazy. add that to the city employees that are largely incapable of making decisions equals these insane delays that you see now.

at this point, there is +/-$1.2B yet to be spent. there are more than enough local contractors to bond this work. the bottleneck will be when/if this work is released, there are not even close enough DBE contractors to handle 37% of this $1.2B...and when they do not get paid for 4 months...they do not want to do this work.

As I type, the City of New Orleans is actively recruiting large contractors from other areas of the country to come bid this work. This information needs to be reported. This is just wrong.

All of this on top of vehicle and job trailer vandalism, and murders ON JOB SITES are never addressed by the city. Never.

anything else you want to know??
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26387 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 8:59 am to
Anyone that trusts government is clearly blind. And also obviously failed history class.
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