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The U.S. has to step up and do whatever it takes to prevent Russia from reviving the USSR.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:15 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:15 am
That is what Putin wants and it’s plain to see. He wants to return Russia to the glory days. We can’t afford that. It took the U.S from about the end of WW2 till what 1991 to finally win the Cold War and collapse the USSR. That was back when there was just 2 super powers and we could just focus on Russia.
Now with the rise of China and the cooperation they have with Russia there is no way to win another Cold War with both China and a reconstituted USSR. Not to mention still focus on the North Korea and Iran threat and still fight the radical Islamic terrorist threat. No way to stop all those threats.
It would be our worst nightmare to allow Russia to bring back the USSR. The more land and resources Russia controls the stronger they will become. I really hate to say this but we have to do whatever it takes at all costs to stop Russia right now. Back when it was 1 on 1 we could and did stop the Russia threat and could do it again today if it was 1 on 1. Now that China is a superpower that has to change our thinking or the world will all be speaking Chinese or Russian.
The Soviet Union must remain dead or the U.S. and the world will not survive. Weakness is the fastest path to WW3 and it may be to late to stop WW3 already. Like it or not that’s just the truth.
I’m as sick of war as anyone else but if Putin ever makes the miscalculation that Hitler did and think the world is to weak to fight then he will attack a NATO country and article 5 will be in play. Putin has to think the U.S. and Europe is willing to fight or he may go after the Baltic States. Sanctions will not deter Putin or XI or any other bad actor. Only the threat of bombs will do that.
We have to learn the lessons of history. The world could have stopped Hitler cold at the start if the world had just banded together and told him no you can’t have this and if you try to take it it’s your arse. Instead the world gave him territory after territory until finally the world said no. But by that time it was to late and when the world finally said no he didn’t believe them and tried to take Poland and WW2 started. Then the Allies has to fight across all the land Hitler took and even some they gave him to try to appease him to avoid war. Try that today with Russia and it will be a bloodbath of epic proportions with modern day weapons. It will make the death and destruction of WW2 look like a car crash on the highway somewhere that a couple of people got killed in.
We can’t afford to fight across all this land that Russia takes like we allowed Hitler to do in WW2. The weapons are to advance today. The more land the world let’s Putin takes the more he will go after and the more belligerent he will come. We have seen this playbook before and it cost millions of lives plus made the Holocaust possible.
Let’s learn from history instead of repeating it. We can’t slog across Europe today like we did back then without killing many more millions than we did back in WW2. If Putin wants a fight let’s do it on his doorstep and not have to fight and retake country after country before we can finally get to Russia. If we have to fight let’s spill more Russian blood than Allied blood.
It’s better to get tough and risk war now than later. I can promise you that if we don’t stand up and risk a war now that there will be one later. That’s just the way you have to play it with dictators and despots. They can’t be appeased or reasoned with. Diplomacy only works with them when they need to buy time to strengthen their hands. Diplomacy is only a tactic to them and they don’t mind breaking agreements later if they have to. Neville Chamberlain showed us that.
We have to let Putin know he risks a fight if he does not change coarse. He wants to stay in power more than anything. If he thinks the U.S. and NATO is willing to fight if he doesn’t stop then he will back down. He won’t risk losing a war and being tried and hung like Saddam. It’s time to take a hard line with Russia or risk China, North Korea, and Iran going on the attack that will start a World War.
Now with the rise of China and the cooperation they have with Russia there is no way to win another Cold War with both China and a reconstituted USSR. Not to mention still focus on the North Korea and Iran threat and still fight the radical Islamic terrorist threat. No way to stop all those threats.
It would be our worst nightmare to allow Russia to bring back the USSR. The more land and resources Russia controls the stronger they will become. I really hate to say this but we have to do whatever it takes at all costs to stop Russia right now. Back when it was 1 on 1 we could and did stop the Russia threat and could do it again today if it was 1 on 1. Now that China is a superpower that has to change our thinking or the world will all be speaking Chinese or Russian.
The Soviet Union must remain dead or the U.S. and the world will not survive. Weakness is the fastest path to WW3 and it may be to late to stop WW3 already. Like it or not that’s just the truth.
I’m as sick of war as anyone else but if Putin ever makes the miscalculation that Hitler did and think the world is to weak to fight then he will attack a NATO country and article 5 will be in play. Putin has to think the U.S. and Europe is willing to fight or he may go after the Baltic States. Sanctions will not deter Putin or XI or any other bad actor. Only the threat of bombs will do that.
We have to learn the lessons of history. The world could have stopped Hitler cold at the start if the world had just banded together and told him no you can’t have this and if you try to take it it’s your arse. Instead the world gave him territory after territory until finally the world said no. But by that time it was to late and when the world finally said no he didn’t believe them and tried to take Poland and WW2 started. Then the Allies has to fight across all the land Hitler took and even some they gave him to try to appease him to avoid war. Try that today with Russia and it will be a bloodbath of epic proportions with modern day weapons. It will make the death and destruction of WW2 look like a car crash on the highway somewhere that a couple of people got killed in.
We can’t afford to fight across all this land that Russia takes like we allowed Hitler to do in WW2. The weapons are to advance today. The more land the world let’s Putin takes the more he will go after and the more belligerent he will come. We have seen this playbook before and it cost millions of lives plus made the Holocaust possible.
Let’s learn from history instead of repeating it. We can’t slog across Europe today like we did back then without killing many more millions than we did back in WW2. If Putin wants a fight let’s do it on his doorstep and not have to fight and retake country after country before we can finally get to Russia. If we have to fight let’s spill more Russian blood than Allied blood.
It’s better to get tough and risk war now than later. I can promise you that if we don’t stand up and risk a war now that there will be one later. That’s just the way you have to play it with dictators and despots. They can’t be appeased or reasoned with. Diplomacy only works with them when they need to buy time to strengthen their hands. Diplomacy is only a tactic to them and they don’t mind breaking agreements later if they have to. Neville Chamberlain showed us that.
We have to let Putin know he risks a fight if he does not change coarse. He wants to stay in power more than anything. If he thinks the U.S. and NATO is willing to fight if he doesn’t stop then he will back down. He won’t risk losing a war and being tried and hung like Saddam. It’s time to take a hard line with Russia or risk China, North Korea, and Iran going on the attack that will start a World War.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 8:48 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:18 am to RollingwiththeTide
Good lord man, use a paragraph break once in a while. Preferably after no more than four or five sentences.
That wall you posted could stop mexicans.
That wall you posted could stop mexicans.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:19 am to magildachunks
Lol. Wish it was that easy.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:30 am to magildachunks
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That wall you posted could stop mexicans.
Oh and OP, Putin has China's backing. No one will touch him.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 2:35 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:31 am to RollingwiththeTide
A read a third of this garbage and still don’t see a single suggestion on what we should do
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:32 am to RollingwiththeTide
Nah.
I’ve been called the biggest threat to America for some time now.
Me and the fam will sit this one out.
Apparently our society needs a boogie man and it can be the old USSR instead of me.
I’ve been called the biggest threat to America for some time now.
Me and the fam will sit this one out.
Apparently our society needs a boogie man and it can be the old USSR instead of me.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:35 am to RollingwiththeTide
It’s not worth a single drop of precious American blood.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:37 am to RoIITide
They'll still hate you white guys. Putin after all is a white supremacist, and standing up for yourself and asking questions and not getting vaccinated with your 5th booster is all signs of white supremacy too, so clearly you are in league with Putin!
/sarcasm but it's probably going to happen.
/sarcasm but it's probably going to happen.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:43 am to JackieTreehorn
Ukraine is not. You are right about that. But fighting for Ukraine is not the only consideration here. It’s way bigger than that now. Russia and China has to believe the world will stop any aggression with force or WW3 is certain. China is watching. North Korea is watching. Everyone talks about China taking Taiwan but what about North Korea attacking South Korea. We have no choice now or we risk more than just 1 drop of American blood. It will spill by the gallons.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:48 am to RollingwiththeTide
frick that idiot kid. Id rather attack Washington DC, thats where the oligarchs are that are hurting American's freedom. But hey, thanks for letting us know what CNN told you. I dont listen to the CIA enough to know what propaganda they are currently spieling.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:49 am to RollingwiththeTide
quote:
Ukraine is not. You are right about that. But fighting for Ukraine is not the only consideration here. It’s way bigger than that now. Russia and China has to believe the world will stop any aggression with force or WW3 is certain. China is watching. North Korea is watching. Everyone talks about China taking Taiwan but what about North Korea attacking South Korea. We have no choice now or we risk more than just 1 drop of American blood. It will spill by the gallons.
It's really hard to give a shite what's happening on the other side of the world when the european nations won't mobilize for something happening in their own backyard.
Do you see the issue? Our country is having serious issues right now and has made zero progress in resolving them. We need to fix those issues here, at home, not off fighting for something that NATO couldn't be troubled with.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:54 am to RollingwiththeTide
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:57 am to BlackPawnMartyr
CNN Lol. Try opening a history book every now and then and stop watching the Real Housewives or whatever brain rot you watch. Before Dec 7th 1941 people said let’s not get involved in that war in Europe. It’s not worth American blood. People wanted to avoid it at all cost. Well even you know how that turned out. The attack on Pearl took place early in the morning Hawaii time and by that evening everyone wanted to go to war. The lost lesson of WW2 is the harder you try to keep from fighting a war the quicker you will fight a war. Patton believed that you take less losses attacking than if you wait and defend. The war would have ended months sooner had Ike supported Patton rather than Monty.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:28 am to RollingwiththeTide
We have some serious issues in our own country. I vote we handle those first.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:29 am to RollingwiththeTide
I'll try "Mother of all paragraphs" for $1,000, Alex...
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:33 am to sawtooth
Well unfortunately when you are dealing with power hungry dictators you never get a choice when you get to go to war. The enemy gets a say in the matter also. I prefer not to do it at all but unfortunately the USA never gets to sit a major war out.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:45 am to RollingwiththeTide
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The attack on Pearl took place early in the morning Hawaii time and by that evening everyone wanted to go to war.
Has our homeland been attacked?
You are aware that the attack was allowed to happen because our "elites" wanted a war, right? It could have been prevented, but certain people wanted the poor to die so they could profit. And here you are, falling for the propaganda all over again. Send your family to die and leave mine out of it.
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