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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:17 am to WDE24
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:17 am to WDE24
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quote:And who exactly is "they" anyway? “They” is a mental crutch to allow vagueness and ranting without requiring specificity and fact.
They is the boogeyman who controls the world.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:20 am to TigerDoc
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No, you're arrogant because you think you're thinking for yourself, but you're actually gathering unreliable information about this war in the same manner than you've come to believe health information from Robert F. Kennedy.
And you’re believing things being told to you by the same people who told you it was only 15 days to slow the spread.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:24 am to OMLandshark
I’ve asked you to make the argument in support of the US forcing Ukraine to cede its land to Russia as you advocated for yesterday and to explain how such a move would strengthen the US position on the world stage, but you ran away and refused to do so. Let’s hear the argument.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:24 am to OMLandshark
Are you going to make your argument for why making a peace deal with Putin right now is going to make us safer or not?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:27 am to TigerDoc
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Are you going to make your argument for why making a peace deal with Putin right now is going to make us safer or not?
We’re on the verge of nuclear war. Anything to deescalate it does make us safer.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:27 am to OMLandshark
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And you’re believing things being told to you by the same people who told you it was only 15 days to slow the spread.
I’m waiting to hear how we were lied to about North Korea. Are you a Q guy now?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:28 am to OMLandshark
quote:That’s it? You think capitulating to Putin because he has threatened nukes makes us safer?
We’re on the verge of nuclear war. Anything to deescalate it does make us safer.
How does that impact Putin’s future decision making? China? North Korea? Iran? You can’t be this simple minded.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:29 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:30 am to REG861
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I’m waiting to hear how we were lied to about North Korea. Are you a Q guy now?
It’s always this bottom of the barrel idiocy. I got banned like four times ridiculing Q. What do you think?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:30 am to OMLandshark
And Putin will honor this deal?
And if he shits on it per his routine and wants a better deal, do we make another deal to de-escalate?
Is there a point at which we stop this de-escalation strategy?
Does this not put us in a weaker position with regard to other countries with nukes and those who'll seek nukes to get "de-escalation"?
And if he shits on it per his routine and wants a better deal, do we make another deal to de-escalate?
Is there a point at which we stop this de-escalation strategy?
Does this not put us in a weaker position with regard to other countries with nukes and those who'll seek nukes to get "de-escalation"?
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:30 am to OMLandshark
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nd you’re believing things being told to you by the same people who told you it was only 15 days to slow the spread.
These same people?
15 Days to slow the Spread
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:33 am to SoonerK
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These same people?
15 Days to slow the Spread
Trump was fooled and should have continued to listen to his instincts rather than listen to that genocidal little elf.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:33 am to OMLandshark
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We’re on the verge of nuclear war. Anything to deescalate it does make us safer.
So if China says it will launch nuclear weapons unless Taiwan is given over to them then for the sake of peace, we should allow that to happen?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:34 am to OMLandshark
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We’re on the verge of nuclear war. Anything to deescalate it does make us safer.
But this doesn't deescalate anything. You understand that right?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:34 am to SoonerK
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So if China says it will launch nuclear weapons unless Taiwan is given over to them then for the sake of peace, we should allow that to happen?
Either way the country is thrown into chaos. That is not the case with Ukraine.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:34 am to SoonerK
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We’re on the verge of nuclear war. Anything to deescalate it does make us safer. So if China says it will launch nuclear weapons unless Taiwan is given over to them then for the sake of peace, we should allow that to happen?
We would have to, but we’d draw a red line.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:35 am to crazy4lsu
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But this doesn't deescalate anything. You understand that right?
Why not? We do concessions in wars all the time. What if Putin is satisfied with Donbas and Crimea?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:36 am to OMLandshark
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So if China says it will launch nuclear weapons unless Taiwan is given over to them then for the sake of peace, we should allow that to happen?
Either way the country is thrown into chaos. That is not the case with Ukraine.
You are really good about not answering any questions posed to you.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:38 am to OMLandshark
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What if Putin is satisfied with Donbas and Crimea?
This is head-in-the-sand wishful thinking. Russia doesn't consider the Ukrainian government legitimate. Why would Russia honor a deal?
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:39 am
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:40 am to GOP_Tiger
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Germany produces commercial telling citizens to save energy so they can make it through winter
This seems like a pretty sensible thing for a government to do when it finds itself under attack by a foreign actor. How you read weakness in this I just don’t know. As Dabos pointed out earlier, collective action in pursuit of a common benefit is a real human instinct.
I hate to add to the politicization of this thread, but in the mid 2000s I found myself driving and working in west Texas and New Mexico. The only thing on the radio at the time was Hispanic music, Jesus, and talent on loan from god. As someone informed by a conservative philosophy and likes a chuckle, Rush was the clear choice.
Clear as day though I remember Rush began telling listeners that he was leaving his cars idling in his driveway, essentially to own the libs. I think it was in response to Gore’s inconvenient truth documentary. And listeners started calling in and commented how long they’ve been idling their car.
This more than anything made me question whether Rush and his ilk were doing good by conservatives or were largely just nihilistic entertainers. You can’t be conservative if you embrace wanton waste or wholly reject the need for some level of collective action in society.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:41 am to SoonerK
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You are really good about not answering any questions posed to you.
There’s sometimes a “I don’t know” is an appropriate answer. Either China threatening us with nukes over Taiwan or invading Taiwan would be the worst thing to happen in our lifetimes. It’s chaos either way, and I don’t have the answer to that. But Ukraine is salvageable to not get to something like that.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 10:43 am
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