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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:32 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:32 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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Do you know the channel name?
Disturbed Reality
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:47 pm to Jim Rockford
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It would make him even more of a pariah but it would also ratchet up calls for a diplomatic solution by several orders of magnitude.
I actually think if he set off 1 or 2 Tactical Nukes some of the Nato countries (think France and/or Germany) could possibly lose their minds and completely crater to Russian demands... Thereby fracturing NATO...
hope we never find out how that would play out...
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 9:14 am
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:53 pm to MountainTiger
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There's a lower limit to how small they can be. To make it explode at all you have to assemble a critical mass.
This is true but yield can be reduced with things like lead tampers. Functional nukes have been built down to 10-ton (not kiloton but ton) yield.
Most of the Russian tac nukes are dial-a-yield via tritium boosting. So you start with a low yield nuke and dial up the amount of tritium injected into a vacuum space in the center of the core. The US doesn't keep many tac nukes in inventory and has moved away from Tritium boosting* for more exotic methods that they don't talk about much.
*the problem with Tritium boosting is two-fold. First, the only way to make useful amounts of tritium is in a nuclear reactor using lithium-6 so it is exceedingly rare. Second, the half-life is just over 12 years so it very quickly loses efficacy and is either replaced or the max yield of the warhead steadily declines.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:56 pm to Obtuse1
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Second, the half-life is just over 12 years so it very quickly loses efficacy and is either replaced or the max yield of the warhead steadily declines.
So decent chance the Russians use nukes that are much lower yield than they are supposed to be given what we’ve seen and learned from the rest of the war.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:57 pm to klrstix
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actually think if he set off 1 or 2 Tactical Nukes some of the Nato countries (think France and/or Germany) could possibly loose their minds and completely crater to Russian demands... Thereby fracturing NATO...
I think it's much more likely China turns it's back on Russia and isolates Putin entirely
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:58 pm to Darth_Vader
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nuclear/biological/chemical (NBC) environment
You just identified yourself as an old soldier (as am I) NBC is now CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear).
IIRC you were a Soviet-era tanker. The Fulda gap strikes a chord with us.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:59 pm to Darth_Vader
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(The most odd things in this thread get downvoted. I expressed no opinion on anything and only stated known facts. Yet, somehow that’s objectionable. Why? At least state your disagreement.)
It’s not odd. You offered facts that undermined Russia’s position and bolstered ours. That doesn’t work for many here.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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The majority of that "Ukrainian" aid probably never leaves the Beltway.
And the Ukranians are winning anyway. Just think what would happen if they really got all that equipment.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:19 pm to doubleb
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More and more, posts and commentaries on the Internet in Russia and even abroad are generated by professional trolls, many of whom receive a higher-than-average salary for perpetuating a pro-Kremlin dialogue online.
There are thousands of fake accounts on Twitter, Facebook, LiveJournal, and vKontakte, all increasingly focused on the war in Ukraine. Many emanate from Russia's most famous "troll factory," the Internet Research center, an unassuming building on St. Petersburg's Savushkina Street, which runs on a 24-hour cycle. In recent weeks, former employees have come forward to talk to RFE/RL about life inside the factory, where hundreds of people work grinding, 12-hour shifts in exchange for 40,000 rubles ($700) a month or more.
St. Petersburg blogger Marat Burkhard spent two months working at Internet Research in the department tasked with clogging the forums on Russia's municipal websites with pro-Kremlin comments. In the following interview, he describes a typical day and the type of assignments he encountered.
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A TYPICAL ASSIGNMENT
Topic: NATO troops are embedded with Ukrainian armed forces
Keywords: ukraine news, russia and ukraine, ukraine policy, ukraine, NATO, PMC (private military company)
Task: Raise this topic on 35 municipal forums
Work begins after an initial post, written by a troll in a different department, is published on the LiveJournal social-networking site under the username flcrbgrjn. The post argues that foreign mercenaries are fighting on the side of Ukrainian soldiers and links to a video that purports to show two American soldiers in the southeastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol.
"The Kyiv junta regularly sics its media on Russia, and they lie shamelessly and recklessly. They argue Russian armed forces are fighting on the territory of Ukraine, but they refuse to provide any proof (because there isn't any). But when it comes to the matter of Ukrainian armed forces, the American puppets entrenched in Kyiv say there's no evidence that foreign mercenaries and Western intelligence agents are joining their ranks -- they lie and don't even blush!"
This post soon appears, according to an alphabetized list, on the Astrakhan city forum. Then the Villain Troll, working under the name Yana24, begins the troika's work, posting a comment that takes issue with flcrbgrjn's post:
"What NATO mercenaries are you talking about? So they filmed some kind of American there, so what? It's still not clear what they were doing there. Russia as usual blames Ukraine for the things it's doing itself. Everyone's been talking about your own mercenaries for a long time, and you still haven't pulled them out!"
The Link Troll then angrily responds to the Villain, rejecting Yana24's argument and linking to a second report on the alleged presence of American soldiers in Mariupol:
"Did you read the text at all? If you're up to date with the topic, you should know how much evidence has already been provided that shows the war in Ukraine is continuing because the West and Poroshenko are reluctant to pursue peace. They've found things belonging to Western soldiers, and now they've found the soldiers themselves. Have they found proof that Russian troops are in Ukraine? Or troops themselves? No!"
Next in line is the Picture Troll, who accuses the West of hypocrisy and adds a demotivator for extra emphasis:
"The West is so two-faced: in every discussion about the Ukrainian conflict the West blames Russia even as it's providing the Ukrainian armed forces with PMC soldiers representing NATO. It's a policy of double standards!"
LINK
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:22 pm to Jim Rockford
It's a much longer article, and worth reading the whole thing. It's pretty clear that little ole Tigerdroppings has garnered the attention of this St Petersburg information warfare operation.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:23 pm to DabosDynasty
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So decent chance the Russians use nukes that are much lower yield than they are supposed to be given what we’ve seen and learned from the rest of the war.
Absolutely. If the 3H has not been replaced since Soviet times it would be very for it to have decayed to the point less than 10% of the 3H remained. I am not sure if Tritium boosting is directly proportional to the available 3H but I would assume it is so it is (very?) possible their boosted nukes are actually near unboosted yields. However, keep in mind the majority of Russia's tac nukes are in the 10+ kilo-ton yield range unboosted. To put that in perspective Little Boy (Hiroshima) was only 15 kilo-ton yield and Fat Man (Nagasaki) was 21 kilo-tons so we are still talking about a big (dirty) boom.
The US doesn't really play the tac nuke game anymore because we have modern conventional weapon delivery systems that more or less negate the benefit of tac nukes given their laundry list of negatives and contra-indications. Tac nukes are primarily for militaries that are concerned that they will not be able to put enough conventional munitions on precise targets in the battlespace.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:25 pm to notiger1997
Video in link is of Girkin questioning the continued attempt to take Bakhmut as pointless as they are being flanked. Duh
LINK
LINK
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:26 pm to Jim Rockford
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It's pretty clear that little ole Tigerdroppings has garnered the attention of this St Petersburg information warfare operation.
Oh, shite. They’re onto us!
“I, for one, welcome our new Russian overlords.”
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:29 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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Make sure to watch the "arm blowed off" video that was offered repeatedly today
It was his hand, you over reacting pussy.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:32 pm to beerJeep
quote:it is YOUR PSYCHOSIS, moron.
It was his hand, you over reacting pussy.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:34 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Nothing like the smell of burning commie in the morning
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:36 pm to beerJeep
digging war is mental malfunction..
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:40 pm to Jim Rockford
Very interesting article, I think we've seen that manifest itself here on more than one occasion.
Thanks for posting.
Thanks for posting.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:41 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Why won’t your commie buddies come out of the house? LINK
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