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Dollar cost average strategy

Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:47 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83607 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:47 am
For you all that inject money regularly, do you have a strategy/trigger?

Time - every week, two weeks, etc
Market moves - every time marker dips x percent


Just wondering strategies people use when have an influx of cash, but don’t wanna go all in at once to mitigate risk.
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21076 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:50 am to
Sup slut!

To properly DCA it should be a fixed money amount on a fixed schedule. ANYthing that involves market moving becomes market timing and IMO dissipates the whole point of DCA
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:52 am to
Time is the better strategy IMO. If you don’t invest by a certain date, you will, more often than not, find yourself waiting on a price trigger that never happens.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7076 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:55 am to
1st of the month, every month. I've got a day job, so very limited time to watch the pendulum swing.

In 25 years I'll be more dialed in to what's going on, but right now this is simply the long game.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83607 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Sup slut!


What up shank


Thanks for the comments guys… I’m doing a combo. Every 2 weeks throwing some in and then if I see a the market down 1% on a particular day, throwing in a little extra.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24984 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:00 am to
quote:

For you all that inject money regularly, do you have a strategy/trigger?

Time - every week, two weeks, etc
Market moves - every time marker dips x percent


Just wondering strategies people use when have an influx of cash, but don’t wanna go all in at once to mitigate risk.


Here is my view ~annually:
- My 401K: Contributions happen throughout the entire year
- Wife's 401K: Same
- IRA Contributions: Fully fund in January, convert to Roth, then invest immediately
- HSA: Contributions throughout the year are invested, never spend HSA monies

-Taxable Account: I think this is what you are most interested in. I have this automated through Schwab Automatic Investing. 5th and 20th of every month I have rules created for which index funds to buy and how much to buy of each. I have a cash reserve sitting in that taxable account that is excess the amount of each bi-monthly withdrawl. I also have it so that excess free cash flow from checkings automatically rolls into the taxable account via a separate 'rule' on the ~3rd and ~18th of every month. This makes it so my checking account stays relatively stable throughout the year and funds the automatic investing without me doing anything.

This system allows me to "DCA" the entire year without me ever needing to do anything manually (other than the IRA). I set it up ~6 months ago and it seems to be working well from a process standpoint. In total, I think this system has resulted in buying almost every week of the year at some level.
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40533 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:01 am to
I'm pretty much always fully invested as soon as I have it, so it's not really a thing for me to have money on a down day.
Posted by SwampCollie
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
314 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Here is my view ~annually:
- My 401K: Contributions happen throughout the entire year
- Wife's 401K: Same
- IRA Contributions: Fully fund in January, convert to Roth, then invest immediately
- HSA: Contributions throughout the year are invested, never spend HSA monies

-Taxable Account: automated Investing. index funds. excess free cash flow from checkings automatically rolls into the taxable account via a separate 'rule'





This is the way - exactly what I do as well
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18897 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:41 am to
DCA props up the market, imo.
quote:

but don’t wanna go all in at once to mitigate risk.

The entire market is risk. Mitigation should involve safe money not in the market. Some like bonds, cash, insurance, etc. What i do is this:
If you have large sums that you want to invest, wait for a drop in price for what you're looking at investing, then purchase.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24984 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:48 am to
quote:

If you have large sums that you want to invest, wait for a drop in price for what you're looking at investing, then purchase


That's just a variation of timing the market. Perfectly fine to just invest a large sum (and Vanguard's study would point to it outperforming DCA ~2/3 of the time)...DCA is a psychological hedge more than anything.

quote:

DCA props up the market, imo.


Absolutely. It's critical to the base volume in the market. If everyone stopped contributing to 401ks cold turkey, then it would materially impact the indices.
Posted by Origins of Asymmetry
Member since Feb 2022
724 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:48 am to
Everyone has their own philosophy

I already DCA through my 401K so I don't feel the need to take that strategy outside of that

I make weekly contributions to brokerage and crypto accounts that sit as cash for some time before I decide to take positions. With my crypto portion I definitely wait for dips. It's too volatile to just blindly DCA in without getting ripped off.
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
1855 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:49 am to
Twice a month. Like the 3rd and 17th or something.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2027 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 9:19 am to
Depends on the amount of money my client is putting in. A DCA strategy on $500,000 may look very different than $25,000.

As others have said, though, you want a fixed time and dollar amount scheduled out. If you pay attention, you have the freedom to accelerate a payment if the market drops a certain % - though I would suggest making that % larger than just 1%. Never delay a transfer in, but you can always accelerate.

Bottom line - it's all psychological unless it's an enormous amount of money. If someone invests $25k over five months or if they invest it all at once, they will not look back 7 years from now and regret either move. It does help psychologically in the short-term though.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83607 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Niner


Solid post
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 11:18 am to
I get paid bi-weekly so every check money goes into my retirement account, a 457b. I have friends who "know the market well" who have some taxable accounts and also Roth IRAs who time the market and I have shown them over and over how I demolish them in returns yet they never learn. I'm not savvy or anything, just low cost index funds, 1 international index, 1 total market US index, a big dividend fund, and a mid cap fund. Very generic and boring but works.

ETA: I'm not shoving papers in their face trying to prove it wrong. They are the ones who discuss it all the time, not me. We get our phones out and look at last 1,3,5, and 10 year and it's never even close with any of them
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 2:39 pm to
I used to over think this.

Similar to what others have said, we auto monthly.

If lump sums show up in life, now it goes in whole at that moment. Tried to out-smart by timing, and 2 of 3 times get my azz kicked.

DCA during 2008-10 has bumped today's net worth by ~20% than if did not DCA during that time, in my rough estimation.

Do it.
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2194 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

I already DCA through my 401K so I don't feel the need to take that strategy outside of that. I make weekly contributions to brokerage and crypto accounts that sit as cash for some time before I decide to take positions.


This is what I do. Aside from my 401K and IRA (back door to Roth), I have cash sitting in my taxable brokerage account that I fund biweekly. I also follow the market pretty regularly and I'll use that cash to jump on individual opportunities when I see them, which is typically on a weekly or biweekly basis.
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