re: How's my top 10 list?

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1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Russell
6. Shaq
7. Kobe
8. Bird
9. Duncan
10. Wilt

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Kobe played 20 years and won League MVP once.

Bird played 13 years (7 years healthy) and won League MVP 3 years in a row.

And there's no way Magic is #4 and Bird is #8.

Duncan > Kobe

Hollinger has unveiled a new GOAT metric here is how he ranks the top 20.

Jordan
Bron
Kareem
Duncan
Malone
Wilt
Bird
Magic
Russell
Kobe
Shaq
Oscar
KD
Admiral
Harden
Mikan
KG
Pettit
Olajuwon
Barkley
Dirk


Methodology :


*A rating of a player’s accumulated accomplishments at the highest levels, based mostly on comparable historical factors, determined heavily but not completely by contemporary evaluations (i.e. awards and All-Star selections). Emphasis is given to the most outstanding achievements — MVP award shares, All-NBA teams, and production above and beyond what is typically an All-Star level.

In terms of influence, they’re relatively the same. Wilt was an insufferable teammate whereas Shaq’s teammates not named Kobe and maybe Penny adored him plus Shaq always came to play lights out in the big games.

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Everyone just automatically puts Magic ahead of Bird. Is that purely based on titles? They did a lot of the same shite, but Bird was the way better scorer/shooter.

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I'm not going to pretend to have the required basketball knowledge to rank them against one another on the court, but off the court Magic had one of those magnetic, everybody-loves-him personalities, while Bird, uh, did not. I think that plays into it a little as well.