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Bball is losing for two reasons.

Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:34 am
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4745 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:34 am
1) Pinson is hurt. He is number 1 because he’s a huge part of #2.

2) defense. Yes, defense. We know we are not a scoring team, however we were doing well due to great defense. Since he’s been out, practically all our losses we have allowed over 70 points. Prior to that we were allowing less than 65 points.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78469 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:36 am to
You forgot to add the murray injury, him only shooting 5 shots all night is a problem
Posted by StAugFLTiger
Member since Jan 2022
1505 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:38 am to
3) Coaching
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4364 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:03 am to
Basketball is losing because we can't do one of the basic needs to win basketball games.....shoot. We have athletes but no shooters.
Posted by jbeard
Member since Nov 2007
779 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:12 am to
Undisciplined defense.
Ole Miss made, I think, four shots in the second half. The rest of their points were at the line.

I like that this team is putting an emphasis on defense, but they tend to pick up too many needless. cheap fouls.

LSU had 19 offensive rebounds last night and took 23 more shots than Ole Miss. Had more assists and steals. But Ole Miss shot 31 free throws. 23 points at the line; almost a third of their total points.

I like to blame the officials as much as anyone else, but I’ve seen some of the fouls this team commits. Some are good hustle fouls and some are pointless.
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2321 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:13 am to
Defensive pressure needs to be the same in the backcourt as it is in the front court
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6959 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:15 am to
Imo it is not really having a set group on the floor long enough to get into the flow of the game.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23757 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:24 am to
quote:

defense. Yes, defense

Teams now practice against the switch defense that we’re getting everyone with earlier. They have plans and plays to beat it. We haven’t adjusted.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
69918 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:27 am to
quote:

1) Pinson is hurt. He is number 1 because he’s a huge part of #2.


Deductive reasoning would say Thisnis it.

Our record before his injury and after says it all.

Not only did we win but we beat good teams
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
29557 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:27 am to
quote:

1) Pinson is hurt. He is number 1 because he’s a huge part of #2


The offense was struggling BEFORE Pinson was injured. Him returning to full strength would definitely help. But it is not going to suddenly turn a poor offense into a very good one.

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2) defense. Yes, defense. We know we are not a scoring team, however we were doing well due to great defense. Since he’s been out, practically all our losses we have allowed over 70 points. Prior to that we were allowing less than 65 points.


LSU is a better defensive team with Gaines at the point rather than Pinson. But over the last 4-5 games teams have started to figure out how to attack LSU's defense. First, because LSU switches everything, regardless of matchup, teams are able to use screens to get mismatches. All last night OM was able to get Reid out top guarding the point with one of LSU's guards having to front OM's Center inside. Those mis-matches require other guys to help, which impacts rotations. In that situation even average offensive teams, with a little ball movement, can find open shots. Credit OM. They hit many of them

Second, LSU fouls constantly. Bitch about the refs all you want. But if you have the same problem over the course of, now, 22 games you start to look for the constants. The officiating crews change from game to game. LSU's team doesn't. The aggressiveness has led to good defense...but it has also led to teams getting easy buckets at the FT line where you can't "guard" them.

The reality of the situation is that LSU is probably regressing to the team they have always been. The 12-0 start was against relatively weak competition and created higher than anticipated expectations. Remember, LSU was picked to finish 6th in the SEC. Wade is a good coach. But his flaw at LSU has always been that his teams lack balance. That is, they are generally elite on one end of the floor and really poor on the other. This year is the same story, but with a different flavor. Unlike the first 4 seasons where LSU was great on offense and terrible on defense, they are now great defensively and terrible offensively. That makes you susceptible to lose to anyone if your strength fails you that night (as it has vs. OM, TCU and Tennessee recently). You don't have the other side of the ball to fall back on. Balanced teams can struggle a bit on one end of the floor, but make up for it on the other. LSU is not a team that can do that. If their defense is not completely locking the opponent down they simply don't have the offensive firepower to compensate for it...with or without Pinson.

I think folks, myself included, need to temper expectations. This is likely a 6-8 seed team. A team that with a good matchup can make a run to the second week of the NCAAT. But a team that doesn't have enough balance to truly be a contender.
Posted by LSUNathan
Jonesboro
Member since Jan 2011
111 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:43 am to
I feel like he made a mistake starting Pinson last night and giving him extended minutes to start the game. Pinson should have just been playing a minute or two in relief of Gaines. Ole Miss had the stretch where they shot lights out, and our defense seemed little slow, and we just couldn't complete comeback. Any one think fatigue could play a factor with this team considering the intensity of the denfense?
Posted by subidc
CharlestonSC
Member since Nov 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 9:01 am to
Wade is an awesome recruiter no doubt. He is the best coach we have had in ages. Basketball is losing for several reasons which includes but is not limited to injuries, no offensive coaching, lack of rim protector, and shooters. He needs to hire a guru to teach an offensive concept. They really don't have one or its the wrong one. Reid is a liability and is no where near ready. He needs to work on footwork and get in the weight room. Teams since the Kentucky game are keying on him therefore our defense is regressing. They need a true point guard like all the good teams have like Auburn, Kentucky, Baylor etc...
Posted by Sackdogg
Livingston
Member since Jul 2010
262 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 10:47 am to
Also, don’t want to sound like a “conspiracy theorist”, however, the refs absolutely hates LSU and Will Wade. Last night Ole Piss went to the line 31 times !!! LSU ? 13 !! And it’s like that every game !! Hard to make up when the opposing team is shooting 18 more “free” throws than you.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:29 am to
I’m told it’s because of the refs.
Posted by Antioch
Anytown, USA
Member since Nov 2021
1449 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:18 pm to
Pinson isn't really a scorer so this logic is flawed. Did we play better with him on the court yes but if we can't hit buckets it won't matter.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
11404 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:22 pm to
1. the other team scores more points
2. we score fewer points
Posted by returnofthemak
Member since Sep 2021
31 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 1:56 pm to
Also ill-advised shots.... whenever we are up on close in points, we should not be taking 3 pointers, instead should be rotating the ball.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3003 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:00 pm to
I feel like 3 out of the last five games we have been in massive holes at some point in the first quarter.

I'm sure someone has a stat on that somewhere.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
29767 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:31 pm to
Too many 3 point attempts without the set up.
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
1955 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:40 pm to
Without an offensive presence like Adam Miller, we were always 1 year away from a seriously deep run in March.

Watch out next year.
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