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re: COVID Vaccines Are Growing New Variants Inside Vaxxed Bodies Claims Gates Backed Doctor

Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:33 pm to
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Some random former gates Dr says something bad about vaccine.

I'm going to automatically up vote it even if it makes no sense and then praise the doctor for being a genius.


When you are being your typical self... here these should help:





Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14928 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 10:53 am to
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Well, he has been warning of this since March of last year and has staked his reputation on it.


Big deal. His reputation is nothing.

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Can you make an argument against his theories?


I didn't read his theories but I'm guessing that he's saying oh the vaccines are causing the virus to mutate!!!

Here's the thing. The virus will mutate. What is the difference whether people or vaccinated or already had it?

Let's say everyone just got it. The rates at which people got it would vary and the virus would mutate similarly and would still change to infect people who had it before, which is what happened.

Vaccines didn't have anything to do with it. It's just the virus trying to beat the immune system whether the immune me system is primed by vaccine or by previous infection.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 10:58 am to
Lol, posted by "Bill Gates is Evil"

Let's compare most doctor's opinions and then make a decision. Wait, let's form an organization of doctors to let us know what's best to do.

No wait, let's then let politics influence the science to confuse everyone!

Then, we trust one doctor's opinion shared by a guy named "bill gates is evil".
This post was edited on 1/22/22 at 11:00 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101987 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 11:00 am to
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are creating more variants,


Is it a bad or good thing if the variants it’s “creating” are all much weaker in their effects on us?
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1639 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 11:30 am to
"I didn't read his theories but I'm guessing that he's saying oh the vaccines are causing the virus to mutate!!! "

He's saying that having so many people vaxed with a specific spike protein causes selection for variants that can evade that specific immune response, natural selection. The virus mutates at a given rate regardless of vax status.
This post was edited on 1/22/22 at 11:31 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40211 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 12:24 pm to
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Vaccines didn't have anything to do with it. It's just the virus trying to beat the immune system whether the immune me system is primed by vaccine or by previous infection.

No. It’s not the virus trying to beat the immune system. It’s just that viruses mutate. As you pointed out, they mutate without any regard to vaccines. What the vaccines do is eliminate the competing variants to the mutation that escapes the vaccine. The vaccines don’t encourage mutations.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 1:03 pm to
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crazy4lsu will be here shortly



Damn I've gotten into your head. This dude is wrong btw.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68497 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Wait, another conspiracy theory that turned out to be true?




In scrabble conspiracy theory is only worth 8 points

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Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Well no shite ... you frick around with a virus and don't kill it, you inherently make it stronger. Its the reason we don't sip penicillin for everything anymore.


You have no idea what you are talking about, no offense.

Penicillin doesn't have any effect on viruses.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
473 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 2:32 pm to
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I didn't read his theories 

Shouldn't you read and try to understand his theories before saying he is wrong? Here is a link to a good explanation of his theories presented by another skeptical scientist. Check it out if you have time - it is well done. LINK
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57518 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 2:37 pm to
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These weak “vaccines” are turning our population into a Petri dish breeding a killer virus


Who didn’t see this coming?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 1/22/22 at 2:47 pm to
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Check it out if you have time - it is well done. LINK


I read the first half and thought it was a pretty poor explanation of immune response, to be quite honest. I will read the rest later after I’ve run an errand.
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