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Zion has been working with a trainer that was fired by Jazz and then LSU after 2 months.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:20 pm
From a Christian Clark article on NOLA.com
Kinda weird.
quote:
The team insisted Williamson would be “remaining under the supervision of the Pelicans medical staff.” However, no Pelicans officials accompanied Williamson on the trip, and the 21-year-old star has been working with Jasper Bibbs, a strength coach who in August was fired after less than two months at LSU, sources told The Times-Picayune | Advocate.
Bibbs spent five seasons with the Utah Jazz, including four as the team’s assistant strength and conditioning coach. Bibbs left the team following the 2020-21 season. Asked why Bibbs left, a Jazz spokesperson citing a team policy said the organization was “unable to comment on our former employees other than to confirm they no longer work for us.”
LSU announced Bibbs' hiring July 22. Bibbs' contract included an annual base salary of $200,000, plus a $2,000 signing bonus and $10,000 in relocation fees. But his run at LSU ended before the regular season began.
Bibbs was fired without cause in August, according to records requested by The Times-Picayune | Advocate. A separation agreement Bibbs signed Aug. 25 indicated that LSU agreed to pay him $75,000 “in a full and final settlement of any and all obligations between the parties.” The separation agreement included a non-disparagement clause, which forbid Bibbs and LSU from criticizing one another.
Bibbs was never on the Pelicans’ payroll, but he accompanied the team on road trips in November and December, sources said.
Kinda weird.
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:22 pm to Fun Bunch
yikes we will never see him againPosted on 1/19/22 at 4:28 pm to Fun Bunch
Sadly, best scenario is he's a great coach that was fired for some non-strength related funny business, like, IDK, maybe he really sucks at workplace flirtation and keeps getting HR charges. Or something more benign like just a clash of personalities.
Worst case, he's a snake oil salesman and was doing terrible work and Utah and LSU eventually got rid of him....and now he's got Zion's future in his hands.
Honestly cant really take too much of anything right now.
Worst case, he's a snake oil salesman and was doing terrible work and Utah and LSU eventually got rid of him....and now he's got Zion's future in his hands.
Honestly cant really take too much of anything right now.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Honestly can't fathom how the "Zion era" could have gone any worse.
Its all just sad.
Its all just sad.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:43 pm to eyeran
It’s just seems like the product of a con artist who’s act is growing stale (Griffin) and an immature entitled kid who fell in love with the buffet (Zion).
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:46 pm to Bronc
If LSU fired him that quickly it's probably not just being bad at his job. There's articles about him working close with Donovan Mitchell and he congratulated him when LSU announced the hire. Can't be any worse than his parents being in charge.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:48 pm to Mad Scientist26
Its everything.
From where we were when we won the lottery, to be in year 3 of Zion and still in the basement of the league.
Contrast that with whats going on in Memphis, and its just misery.
From where we were when we won the lottery, to be in year 3 of Zion and still in the basement of the league.
Contrast that with whats going on in Memphis, and its just misery.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:13 pm to eyeran
How are y'all taking this so negatively? We don't know why he didn't work out at LSU, and as long as it wasn't for being a bad trainer, I'm not sure we care. He was a trainer with a legit, well run NBA team for 4 years.
Even though he's not officially with the Pels him being with the team in November and December says either the team hired him or Zion likes him, or both.
I don't see this information as good or bad. It just says Zion is working with a real NBA trainer, which is what you'd expect.
Even though he's not officially with the Pels him being with the team in November and December says either the team hired him or Zion likes him, or both.
I don't see this information as good or bad. It just says Zion is working with a real NBA trainer, which is what you'd expect.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:19 pm to eyeran
Combine that with NBA Ja Morant actually playing like and having Duke Zion type energy and it’s even worse.
Think about it. Yes. Zion is a great scorer. But his 3-4 wtf plays a game that he had in college turned into maybe 2 plays a month. And a lot of his ridiculous plays are actually layups. NBA Zion is very good, but he doesn’t drop your jaw or change the energy in an arena with his array of left handed layups and simple 2 handed dunks (95% of his dunks these days)
Meanwhile Ja has a SC TOP 10 dunk, block, or pass or 3 every game and his infectious energy and leadership has resulted in a winning culture in Memphis.
Zion was supposed to be the guy leading every top play highlight on sportscenter. He was supposed to have the leadership and joy intangibles that emanate and bleed through your tv screen and eventually into the fabric of the entire organization until they have no choice but to step up their game and win with you. (EX: Joe Burrow, Ja Morant)
The total package of Ja Morant is what we expected Zion Williamson to be. If there was a redraft today, most teams would take Ja for the same reason why Zion was selected 3 years ago. He’s box office. He sells tickets. He keeps you glued to the tv screen. His intangibles and fire are off the fricking charts. I love Zion and I defend him a lot, but if we are truly unbiased about it, Ja Morant is doing what Zion was supposed to right now. And it’s disheartening as a fan and I hope it’s disheartening enough for Zion to get back on the grind and be all he can be. And year 2 Zion is not all he can be. Duke Zion is the standard. That is the type of player that carries a flawed roster to the playoffs no matter what and eventually to a championship.
Think about it. Yes. Zion is a great scorer. But his 3-4 wtf plays a game that he had in college turned into maybe 2 plays a month. And a lot of his ridiculous plays are actually layups. NBA Zion is very good, but he doesn’t drop your jaw or change the energy in an arena with his array of left handed layups and simple 2 handed dunks (95% of his dunks these days)
Meanwhile Ja has a SC TOP 10 dunk, block, or pass or 3 every game and his infectious energy and leadership has resulted in a winning culture in Memphis.
Zion was supposed to be the guy leading every top play highlight on sportscenter. He was supposed to have the leadership and joy intangibles that emanate and bleed through your tv screen and eventually into the fabric of the entire organization until they have no choice but to step up their game and win with you. (EX: Joe Burrow, Ja Morant)
The total package of Ja Morant is what we expected Zion Williamson to be. If there was a redraft today, most teams would take Ja for the same reason why Zion was selected 3 years ago. He’s box office. He sells tickets. He keeps you glued to the tv screen. His intangibles and fire are off the fricking charts. I love Zion and I defend him a lot, but if we are truly unbiased about it, Ja Morant is doing what Zion was supposed to right now. And it’s disheartening as a fan and I hope it’s disheartening enough for Zion to get back on the grind and be all he can be. And year 2 Zion is not all he can be. Duke Zion is the standard. That is the type of player that carries a flawed roster to the playoffs no matter what and eventually to a championship.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:25 pm to 3PieceSpicy
You are beholden to recency bias. If Zion was healthy, you wouldn't be making those statements.
Compare and complain all you want, it's an entirely pointless endeavor because Zion is a Pelican and Morant is a Grizzly. No amount of hand-wringing is going to change that.
Compare and complain all you want, it's an entirely pointless endeavor because Zion is a Pelican and Morant is a Grizzly. No amount of hand-wringing is going to change that.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:30 pm to TigerinATL
I thought the article was in poor taste tbh. Really didn't reveal anything. More sensationalism clickbait.
lol Look at the first sentence. "The New Orleans Pelicans’ loss to the New York Knicks last April was concerning on multiple levels."
So if we won that game, there wouldve been no problem?
Low hanging from writing.
Also Its kinda strange that of all people he couldve recruited he got a guy from LSU with NBA experience. Pels couldve arranged that pairing.
lol Look at the first sentence. "The New Orleans Pelicans’ loss to the New York Knicks last April was concerning on multiple levels."
So if we won that game, there wouldve been no problem?
Low hanging from writing.
Also Its kinda strange that of all people he couldve recruited he got a guy from LSU with NBA experience. Pels couldve arranged that pairing.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:40 pm to Pelliveli
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I thought the article was in poor taste tbh
I thought it was shitty. Does the TP pay by the word? Because a rehash of Stan Van/Bledsoe and last year's Knicks game ending wasn't really necessary.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:40 pm to Pelliveli
A lot of reaching with that piece. If he had credible information about trainer's role, then it would actually mean something. He's just looking for anything to cause speculation at this point.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:49 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:None of this matters at all. Zion is the better player, Ja hasn't and may never be as good as 20 year old Zion.
Think about it. Yes. Zion is a great scorer. But his 3-4 wtf plays a game that he had in college turned into maybe 2 plays a month. And a lot of his ridiculous plays are actually layups. NBA Zion is very good, but he doesn’t drop your jaw or change the energy in an arena with his array of left handed layups and simple 2 handed dunks (95% of his dunks these days)
Meanwhile Ja has a SC TOP 10 dunk, block, or pass or 3 every game and his infectious energy and leadership has resulted in a winning culture in Memphis.
As for your last point which would be the only one that does matter, I think it's simply the fact that the Memphis team is clearly better. They can win or without Ja, so it's hard to give Ja all the credit for the winning, especially since Memphis has to date still been statistically better when Ja is off the court.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:59 pm to 3PieceSpicy
I understand fandom. Im a huge homer myself. But trying to brush off your franchise player basically missing 2 of his first 3 seasons and spending year 3 across the country training with people not associated with the team, when that wasn't the reported plan, is delusional.
This board spent the previous two seasons downplaying the Grizzlies lapping us in their development as no big deal because guys like Jaxson and NAW had more upside than their young guys. We'll talk ourselves into anything.
Its very clear that Zion has absolutely zero trust or respect for our medical staff and will fly across the globe to get away from them, and people are trying to figure out ways that this might not actually be a bad thing.
This board spent the previous two seasons downplaying the Grizzlies lapping us in their development as no big deal because guys like Jaxson and NAW had more upside than their young guys. We'll talk ourselves into anything.
Its very clear that Zion has absolutely zero trust or respect for our medical staff and will fly across the globe to get away from them, and people are trying to figure out ways that this might not actually be a bad thing.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:01 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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But his 3-4 wtf plays a game that he had in college turned into maybe 2 plays a month. And a lot of his ridiculous plays are actually layups. NBA Zion is very good, but he doesn’t drop your jaw or change the energy in an arena with his array of left handed layups and simple 2 handed dunks (95% of his dunks these days)
Bro did you watch Zion at all last year? He was crossing dudes up at the top of the key and either finishing or dropping off dimes at 280. If that doesn't click as an insane highlight then idk what to tell you to get you excited about him, because otherwise you're telling me he's a more athletic Tim Duncan with how efficient he is.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:08 pm to eyeran
We're one of the worst teams in the league, Zion is 3 months behind schedule on an injury with no return date in sight, and we're doing the blame the media thing again. Again.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:22 pm to eyeran
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Zion is 3 months behind schedule on an injury
You have no proof that he's behind at all, setbacks fricking happen
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:31 pm to Jester
It’s honestly not recency bias when a Zion injury has derailed 3 of 3 seasons so far.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:43 pm to whatiknowsofar
I watched every game. He had highlights yes, but we can’t lie to ourselves. They weren’t the same caliber of highlights he had at Duke. And yes, I know it’s a step up in comp, but guys like Ant and Morant are literally jumping over people in nba games and they are not as athletic as Duke Zion.
Also, a big part of what made Zion a transcendent prospect were his 2 blocks, 2 steals and numerous hustle plays he made per game. He made winning plays at Duke.
To be honest, I’d probably compare him to more efficient Carmelo Anthony over his first 2 seasons. Great scorer. Doesn’t offer much in terms of defense, leadership or winning intangibles. Yearns for New York.
Timmy D played both ways and was a leader.
Again I actually like Zion, but I’m not going to lie to myself. Watch NBA Ja. That is Duke Zion in a point guard’s body.
62% fg is great. But it takes more than that to win games and put a winning stamp on an organization. Zion needs to completely get right. Because as good as he was Year 1 and 2, that’s not enough. That’s not upholding the best prospect since Lebron standard. And he would tell you that himself. He was telling us that in the exit interview at the end of the year after we missed the playoffs.
Also, a big part of what made Zion a transcendent prospect were his 2 blocks, 2 steals and numerous hustle plays he made per game. He made winning plays at Duke.
To be honest, I’d probably compare him to more efficient Carmelo Anthony over his first 2 seasons. Great scorer. Doesn’t offer much in terms of defense, leadership or winning intangibles. Yearns for New York.
Timmy D played both ways and was a leader.
Again I actually like Zion, but I’m not going to lie to myself. Watch NBA Ja. That is Duke Zion in a point guard’s body.
62% fg is great. But it takes more than that to win games and put a winning stamp on an organization. Zion needs to completely get right. Because as good as he was Year 1 and 2, that’s not enough. That’s not upholding the best prospect since Lebron standard. And he would tell you that himself. He was telling us that in the exit interview at the end of the year after we missed the playoffs.
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