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re: Zion has been working with a trainer that was fired by Jazz and then LSU after 2 months.

Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17838 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:46 pm to
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Combine that with NBA Ja Morant actually playing like and having Duke Zion type energy and it’s even worse.



No, it's not. Ja shouldn't have anything to do with how you feel about Zion.
Posted by Pelliveli
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:48 pm to
Donovan Mitchell, who has averaged over 23 points in his four seasons with the Utah Jazz said: “Jasper is an incredible strength coach, trainer, and friend. He’s continuously finding ways to motivate his players. He helped me tremendously with my strength and conditioning. He’s a great motivator! He finds ways to get the best out of his athletes, and he’s definitely help me become the player who I am today.”

Royce O’Neale, who has played close to 300 games the last four seasons for the Jazz said this of Bibbs: “LSU is getting one of the best strength coaches in the game right now. Jasper has helped with my personal development in the weight room and with transforming my body to help me stay healthy and compete at the highest level during my time in the NBA.”
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:59 pm to
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How are y'all taking this so negatively? 


Catastrophe Syndrome
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:08 pm to
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Contrast that with whats going on in Memphis, and its just misery.


they are going to get their arse kicked for a week or so.
down two starters and a 6th man.

i wish nba would bubble the last two weeks of season and the playoffs.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:35 pm to
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How are y'all taking this so negatively?


A twice fired of recent trainer is in charge of the entire future of our organization... gee... no idea...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Again I actually like Zion, but I’m not going to lie to myself. Watch NBA Ja. That is Duke Zion in a point guard’s body.
Again, 20 year old Zion was much better than the best Ja we've seen, and Ja may never have a season dominant as 20 year old Zion.

Health is the only question, because Zion is a few levels above Morant in his on the court play.

And to top it off, the Pelicans with Zion on the court are still better than the Grizzlies with Ja on the court, so there's that too.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Ja shouldn't have anything to do with how you feel about Zion.






cant blame him.
they are linked like Eli and the charger.
no 3 days go by without some reminder.
one part is morant is good and getting better.
and his team is good
so hes in the news in positive ways. i think they are like 22 and 4 recently too.


Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:05 pm to
But they’re really not though

No one in their right mind was taking Ja that night first. Every single GM who would have, was also gone
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1776 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:09 pm to
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And to top it off, the Pelicans with Zion on the court are still better than the Grizzlies with Ja on the court, so there's that too.


C'mon man have you been watching NBA this year? Griz are 31-15 and the 3 seed right now with more young talent than us and possibly a better coach. They are exactly what we want to be: A young team with a young superstar that drafted well and surrounded Ja with really good talent. If you're not at least a little jealous of the Griz then you're not being honest or not paying attention.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:28 pm to
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C'mon man have you been watching NBA this year? Griz are 31-15 and the 3 seed right now with more young talent than us and possibly a better coach. They are exactly what we want to be: A young team with a young superstar that drafted well and surrounded Ja with really good talent. If you're not at least a little jealous of the Griz then you're not being honest or not paying attention.



While Memphis has played well, still believe they are overachieving similarly to Atlanta last year.

They have 9 legitimate players on their roster and of those 9, only 1 player shoots below 40%. They're also playing some damn good defense (7th) still.

Do I think they're an up-and-coming team that is a annual playoff team, absolutely.

Do I think they're the 3rd best team in the west, currently yes...realistically no.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52606 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:05 pm to
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While Memphis has played well, still believe they are overachieving similarly to Atlanta last year.
then they’ve been over achieving for 3 years now. Give them credit. They’re a hard working team that’s well coached and led by a superstar. Atlanta was a one hit wonder. Memphis has been competitive and improving each year since the Ja Era



shite they even went on like a 10 game win streak WITHOUT Ja. And they were winning without JJJ
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:11 pm to
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Do I think they're the 3rd best team in the west, currently yes...realistically no.


another covid season.
its not like the bubble.
memphis lost today.
no bane.
no anderson.
brooks already out.
so you never know if a team will be the names you expect.
the playoffs will be weird.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:18 pm to
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C'mon man have you been watching NBA this year? Griz are 31-15 and the 3 seed right now with more young talent than us and possibly a better coach. They are exactly what we want to be: A young team with a young superstar that drafted well and surrounded Ja with really good talent. If you're not at least a little jealous of the Griz then you're not being honest or not paying attention.
I've specifically pointed out how good the Memphis team is.

As good as they are this season, they have a +2.8 net rating with Ja on the court. Zion for his career is +2.5 when he's on the court.

As I've pointed out many times, the difference in the 2 players and their teams performance takes places when both are off the court, because Memphis is so much deeper and has a better team than we do.

But again, statistically and factually we are better when Zion plays than Memphis is when Ja plays.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52606 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:26 pm to
I’ll still take Ja over Zion at this point. Much better leader. Dude has embraced Memphis with open arms. Plus the obvious in regard to him staying healthier than Zion.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11900 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 10:31 pm to
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How are y'all taking this so negatively? We don't know why he didn't work out at LSU, and as long as it wasn't for being a bad trainer, I'm not sure we care. He was a trainer with a legit, well run NBA team for 4 years.

Even though he's not officially with the Pels him being with the team in November and December says either the team hired him or Zion likes him, or both.

I don't see this information as good or bad. It just says Zion is working with a real NBA trainer, which is what you'd expect.
Just status quo with many on this site. If it involves Zion, it has to be negative and many have to find something to complain about him for it.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18206 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:31 am to
So he is getting millions from the team to just do whatever his fat slob a— wants to?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17838 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:59 am to
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So he is getting millions from the team to just do whatever his fat slob a— wants to?


No, he's getting millions to rehab his foot so that he can return and play basketball for the Pelicans.

Glad I could help you with that question.
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