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re: The worst wars to be a US soldier in
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:21 pm to Palmetto98
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:21 pm to Palmetto98
WW1 is considered the worst. Old tactics with modern weapons. Nasty results. Plus the chemicals released by the dumbass Germans.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:24 pm to Palmetto98
Due to the helicopter, troops in Vietnam saw more days of combat than their predecessors.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:27 pm to fr33manator
Got to wear the French fourragere, cause of the boys in Ww1 , have to give respect
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:28 pm to Palmetto98
The worst is either the Civil War or WWI... basically whenever technology to kill prople had far surpassed medical ability to save them. It has only gotten "better" relatively speaking since.
Not that any of it is ice cream and ping pong unless you're a retard from Alabama.
Not that any of it is ice cream and ping pong unless you're a retard from Alabama.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:29 pm to Palmetto98
Civil War, and not even close. Antietam makes the other battles in our history look like peace rallies.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:34 pm to Afish85
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WW 1 is what happens when the technology of killing gets way ahead of the advancement of medicine
Medicine wouldn’t have help save lives when men were continually sent to march into machine gun fire
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:36 pm to Palmetto98
civil war and its not close unless you think getting a limb cut off with a saw without any pain killers is ok
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:50 pm to Palmetto98
I’ll say civil war. Hell stonewall Jackson was shot in the arm, lost it to amputation, and then died of pneumonia 8 agonizing days later. Total hell.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:51 pm to alwaysknow
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All wars...all are the worst to be a US soldier.
Yeah it's a toss up between fighting in the trenches in WW I and The Gulf War...
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:54 pm to undkeith
quote:Morals? In War? Please do tell
You had some morals and respect for rules of war
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:57 pm to lsupride87
Have to factor in length of war. WW1 probably had the worst conditions but for a relatively shorter period of time than civil, WW2, or Vietnam.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Antietam makes the other battles in our history look like peace rallies.
I had two great, great uncles were with Company I, 9th Louisiana Infantry (Starke's Brigade) at Antietam. One lost an arm and returned home to St. Tammany Parish were he entered local, then state, politics. He eventually was declared insane (now known as PTSD) and died at the Louisiana War Veterans' Home in the early 1890's. The other uncle rejoined the Confederate cause as part of Ogden's Cavalry and bushwhacked around the southern part of the Florida Parishes and ultimately surrendered in Citronelle, Alabama. He died in a train wreck coming home from a reunion of Confederate soldiers. I've also been told he was pushed in front of a moving train in Abita Springs.
Some of Starke's Brigade killed at Antietam:
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:24 pm to Palmetto98
Not even close. Civil War.
Dudes lined up with bayonets drawn, then march across an open field all the while being peppered with canister and slaughtered in droves as they charged the enemy position.
In one disturbing account a union officer was strolling through a battleground. Whereupon he stumbled upon a confederate soldier, still alive, with maggots partaking of his innards. The poor maggot infested confederate soldier was oblivious to his surroundings. But incredibly, still alive.
In terms of dealing with the wounded on the battlefield during the Civil War, the mortality rate of the severely wounded was off the chart. The standard practice for treating severe wounds to arms and legs was to simply saw them off. Ouch! Then wash the blood off the table with a bucket of water and bring in the next convulsing body. I recall seeing an awful Matthew Brady picture of amputated limbs piled high outside a barn window. Yep, the American Civil War can best be described as a meat grinder.
Which brings me to hope we NEVER plunge our country into another bloodbath like that one.
Dudes lined up with bayonets drawn, then march across an open field all the while being peppered with canister and slaughtered in droves as they charged the enemy position.
In one disturbing account a union officer was strolling through a battleground. Whereupon he stumbled upon a confederate soldier, still alive, with maggots partaking of his innards. The poor maggot infested confederate soldier was oblivious to his surroundings. But incredibly, still alive.
In terms of dealing with the wounded on the battlefield during the Civil War, the mortality rate of the severely wounded was off the chart. The standard practice for treating severe wounds to arms and legs was to simply saw them off. Ouch! Then wash the blood off the table with a bucket of water and bring in the next convulsing body. I recall seeing an awful Matthew Brady picture of amputated limbs piled high outside a barn window. Yep, the American Civil War can best be described as a meat grinder.
Which brings me to hope we NEVER plunge our country into another bloodbath like that one.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:30 pm to Palmetto98
Eastern front of both ww's was pretty f'n gnarly.
Lots of civil war responses, and I'd agree, but I'd lump in all the insane shite that happened under Napoleon forward to the horrors of the 20th century. Much of the 1800s warfare from Napoleon forward was similar, WW1 was the next evolution.
Once central banks were involved in extending warfare, it got uglier. And of course Napoleon was willing to throw lives away that the rest of them weren't, until they figured him out.
Lots of civil war responses, and I'd agree, but I'd lump in all the insane shite that happened under Napoleon forward to the horrors of the 20th century. Much of the 1800s warfare from Napoleon forward was similar, WW1 was the next evolution.
Once central banks were involved in extending warfare, it got uglier. And of course Napoleon was willing to throw lives away that the rest of them weren't, until they figured him out.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:33 pm to Palmetto98
WW2 in the pacific theater fighting on the islands. Especially if you were captured. Same with Vietnam. East Asia is brutal to POWs
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:41 pm to Palmetto98
As a whole, probably the Civil War.
But, particular battles, I’d have to say Chosin In Korea. Just brutal conditions
But the battles of WW1 are astounding in their scope of death and destruction. Verdun had over 50000 KIA in a day. And over 750000 KIA/WIA for the battle. And the generals didn’t change a damned thing.
But, particular battles, I’d have to say Chosin In Korea. Just brutal conditions
But the battles of WW1 are astounding in their scope of death and destruction. Verdun had over 50000 KIA in a day. And over 750000 KIA/WIA for the battle. And the generals didn’t change a damned thing.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:42 pm to ThatMakesSense
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War is sad. An absolute admonishment of people being able to cooperate effectively with one another, beyond their differences. What kind of animal, with a coherent brain, wants to kill to enforce their point?
Agree 100%
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:46 pm to ThatMakesSense
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What kind of animal, with a coherent brain, wants to kill to enforce their point?
I'll take what is the modern Democratic Party for $500, Alex.
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