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re: CDC just admitted 75% of counted Covid deaths weren’t caused by covid
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:10 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:10 pm to FlexDawg
It is unclear if she is talking about all deaths since the start of all this or just since November (since Omnicron).
She does not say that it is not because of Covid.
She says Covid kills if you have other bad stuff inside your body like too much fat.
She does not say that it is not because of Covid.
She says Covid kills if you have other bad stuff inside your body like too much fat.
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:10 pm to FlexDawg
That's not what I heard. I heard 75% of deaths had 4 or more comorbidities. Is the link wrong?
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:12 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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What exactly do you think caused 400,000 people to die of pneumonia and 400k+ to die of respiratory distress/failure/arrest? Absolutely ignorant take. And you guys act like it’s the Covidians that just accept what they are being told without thinking critically.
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In the United States, 1.5 million people were diagnosed with pneumonia in an emergency department during 2018.
So we just going with pneumonia and flu disappeared from earth after 2018?
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For decades, pneumonia has remained the leading cause of death due to infectious disease around the world.
And guess what? We have vaccines for pneumonia, do you have your PCV? I didnt think so.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:13 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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MikeTheTiger71
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What exactly do you think caused 400,000 people to die of pneumonia and 400k+ to die of respiratory distress/failure/arrest? Absolutely ignorant take. And you guys act like it’s the Covidians that just accept what they are being told without thinking critically.
Please, oh brilliant one, refute the CDC table in the post that says only 5% of those with covid being the only cause of death on their death certificate vs the 95% shown in the table as having on average 4 comorbidities.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:14 pm to Diamondawg
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That's not what I heard. I heard 75% of deaths had 4 or more comorbidities. Is the link wrong?
Yes, it’s wrong. And it’s not 75% of all COVID deaths had 4 or more comorbidities. It’s 75% of COVID deaths amongst vaccinated people have 4 or more.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:16 pm to Eurocat
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Eurocat
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It is unclear if she is talking about all deaths since the start of all this or just since November (since Omnicron).
She does not say that it is not because of Covid.
She says Covid kills if you have other bad stuff inside your body like too much
Feel like a pretzel yet?
Your 'experts" are finally beginning to reveal what most of us already knew.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:18 pm to BaldEagleHey
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Please, oh brilliant one, refute the CDC table in the post that says only 5% of those with covid being the only cause of death on their death certificate vs the 95% shown in the table as having on average 4 comorbidities.
Are you really going to insist on that ignorant position? Is your position that someone who got pneumonia or went into respiratory failure/distress/arrest because of the virus didn’t really die because of the virus? Because that’s what you’re saying.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:18 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Yes, it’s wrong. And it’s not 75% of all COVID deaths had 4 or more comorbidities. It’s 75% of COVID deaths amongst vaccinated people have 4 or more.
This.
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“Good Morning America” host: “I want to ask you about the encouraging headlines that we’re talking about this morning, a new studying talking about just how well vaccines are working to prevent severe illness. Given that, is it time for us to start rethinking how we’re living with this virus if it is potentially here to stay?”
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky: A really important study if I may summarize it. A study of 1.2 million people who are vaccinated between December and October and demonstrated that severe disease occurred in about 0.015% of the people who receive their primary series. And death in 0.003% of those people.
The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.
https://youtu.be/gxZT7ra-oxs?t=152
The memes and tweets you are seeing from people like Clay Travis and Don Jr. are false.
Carry on.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:20 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Are you really going to insist on that ignorant position? Is your position that someone who got pneumonia or went into respiratory failure/distress/arrest because of the virus didn’t really die because of the virus? Because that’s what you’re saying.
Pneumonia was killing millions of people worldwide pre 2020. And again, we have a vaccine.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:21 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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MikeTheTiger71
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Are you really going to insist on that ignorant position? Is your position that someone who got pneumonia or went into respiratory failure/distress/arrest because of the virus didn’t really die because of the virus? Because that’s what you’re saying.
Actually, mr arrogance dripping from your keyboard, I asked you to refute the original post with a chart from the CDC itself.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:22 pm to dgnx6
So you’re saying that deaths from pneumonia and respiratory failure/distress/arrest just magically shot up by 400k+ in 2020?
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:23 pm to BaldEagleHey
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Actually, mr arrogance dripping from your keyboard, I asked you to refute the original post with a chart from the CDC itself.
I’m not refuting it. COVID caused those things.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The memes and tweets you are seeing from people like Clay Travis and Don Jr. are false.
Carry on.
Because us today released an edited interview and didnt release the full one until after this.
So again, the msm lying. Or at least lying through omission.
But, she was talking about a study.
But, weve been making policy over a study.
So extrapolate her study to the population just like weve done everything else.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:24 pm to FlexDawg
And yet, the media will not change their death count when they send out all their updates!
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:25 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Do you’re saying that deaths from pneumonia and respiratory failure/distress/arrest just magically shot up by 400k+ in 2020?
No, im saying covid didnt kill all of those people.
1.5 million people had pnuemonia in the us before covid hit.
1.5 million
1.5 million
Plus if you read the fine print, CDC says covid deaths with confirmed or presumed. meaning, they arent all confirmed to have had covid. but we will shove the big scary number in your face anyway because you wont read the fine print.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:47 pm to dgnx6
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No, im saying covid didnt kill all of those people.
1.5 million people had pnuemonia in the us before covid hit.
1.5 million
1.5 million
Plus if you read the fine print, CDC says covid deaths with confirmed or presumed. meaning, they arent all confirmed to have had covid. but we will shove the big scary number in your face anyway because you wont read the fine print.
500k+ more people died in 2020 than in 2019. The vast majority of those additional deaths correspond with the increase in the number of people dying from pneumonia and respiratory distress/failure/arrest. I’m not saying no one died from pneumonia and respiratory problems pre-COVID. I’m saying that the number of people dying from those causes shot up materially at the same time as COVID arrived. Either some other unknown cause led to more deaths from pneumonia and respiratory issues or the virus that is known to cause pneumonia and respiratory issues is the cause. It’s really not rocket science.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:48 pm to dgnx6
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Because us today released an edited interview and didnt release the full one until after this.
So again, the msm lying. Or at least lying through omission.
US Today released the edited video or did Barrington Martin II release an edited video that Don Jr/Clay Travis/etc. all ran with?
https://twitter.com/_BarringtonII/status/1480363778818641931
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:55 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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The vast majority of those additional deaths correspond with the increase in the number of people dying from pneumonia and respiratory distress/failure/arrest.
Actually, the number of deaths attributed to respiratory illnesses (non-Covid) noticeably fell.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:58 pm to McLemore
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brother in law is an ER nurse
Shocker
It’s not a cashier at a gas station like most folks here but it’s good work.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 3:05 pm to the808bass
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Actually, the number of deaths attributed to respiratory illnesses (non-Covid) noticeably fell.
Respiratory illness, yes. That’s a chronic condition. I agree there was some slight reduction in deaths attributed to chronic respiratory illness in 2020. Some of that is undoubtedly cannibalization into the COVID stats. Some is a real reduction in other respiratory viruses due to the measures we took to combat COVID. That change though isn’t anywhere near the magnitude of the changes in total deaths or the increases in pneumonia related and acute respiratory distress/failure/arrest amongst people who didn’t have chronic respiratory illness.
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