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re: Anybody know this guy? He needs to be arrested.

Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:30 pm to
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But he didn't have a gun.
It was a comparison to showcase how the old man had zero chance of winning a physical confrontation.

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And your wife would have done the same thing as the old man (see how easy that is??)
I don't see how easy that is, this doesn't make sense if you think it proves me wrong lol. it doesn't matter who completed the act, it would still not be smart. Why are you pretending if it were your wife or my wife, that would then make it the smart thing to do to follow the crazy, unhinged guy?

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You're speaking in tailor-made hypotheticals to fit your argument.
Cool, let's make it as direct as possible. Do you think it was a good idea and helped the situation for the old man to follow the crazy unhinged, guy? Simple yes or no will do.

Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42299 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:32 pm to
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It can also easily be argued that the old man was looking for a physical confrontation when he followed the guy,

Then the old guy should’ve thrown the first punch. Plus I’m pretty sure Suarez had threatened to punch the old guy before old guy followed hothead to the van
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:32 pm to
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I’m not sure how anyone can argue that it was a good idea for the old man to step in
Notice how they will all just call names and flip out, but when you ask them direction questions, they wont answer?

That's the funny part. They absolutely agree with you, but they're too far into their stance to concede they were wrong, so they feel they have to fight the good fight and tell you how terrible you are for saying the old man should not have followed the unhinged lunatic, which is only about as logical of a stance you could take about the old man following him.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59706 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:32 pm to
You don’t know what frame of mind someone is in when you come across them like that. Obviously he was looking to start shite, but wasn’t harming anybody. That is a time where you mind your own business and the dude goes on about his way, and you do too.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79881 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:32 pm to
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Add to that you don't have to do anything special to be promoted to O-3, it's a simple time-in-grade promotion. most officers get there by just not punching old men out.


And O-4 is now definitely out of the question.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Then the old guy should’ve thrown the first punch.
Or don't follow the unhinged, crazy guy.

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Plus I’m pretty sure Suarez had threatened to punch the old guy before old guy followed hothead to the van
He did. Based on that, do you think it was a good idea for the little, old man to then follow the guy flying off the handle who is much bigger than him? Was that a smart decision?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166498 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:35 pm to
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shel311


TDM was the initial aggressor. He went over there in an aggressive manor, instigated and escalated an entire situation, verbally assaulted the man, threatened him with violence, swung at his face (whatever you want to call that), sorry but all fault bets are off at that point. This isn't a 100% argument needing to be made, TDM dug his own grave.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:36 pm to
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TDM was the initial aggressor. He went over there in an aggressive manor, instigated and escalated an entire situation, verbally assaulted the man, threatened him with violence, swung at his face (whatever you want to call that), sorry but all fault bets are off at that point. This isn't a 100% argument needing to be made, TDM dug his own grave.

We all agree to this, I haven't read this entire thread, but I don't see 1 person who said anything positive or attempted to support him in anyway.

None of that changes the fact that the old man following him was not a wise decision. Do you think that was a good idea? You can't say "it doesn't matter" because that doesn't make any sense at all, it 100% matters because it happened.


Both can be true, they are not mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166498 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:42 pm to
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Do you think that was a good idea?


well so many variables. old man may have a lot of pride about the stance he took. maybe his jaw getting sewn up will help him lose some weight and he gets a few years of added life to watch his grand kids play some more travel bawl. I don't understand in what context you want me to subjectively answer a question that you admit its relevance is slim to none.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:42 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:44 pm to
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well so many variables. old man may have a lot of pride about the stance he took. maybe his jaw getting sewn up will help him lose some weight and he gets a few years of added life to watch his grand kids play some more travel bawl.

I can't tell if you're just going for the joke or being serious.

The joke, I liked. That was funny.

But you know the answer to the question is "no" but you can't bring yourself to say it. But again, you know.

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I don't understand in what context you want me to subjectively answer a question that you admit its relevance is slim to none.
It sure as shite ain't slim to none to the old man.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:45 pm to
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None of that changes the fact that the old man following him was not a wise decision


Can I see some links to people claiming it was?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Can I see some links to people claiming it was?

Read the last few pages.

It's multiple times probably on each page.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:47 pm to
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You're a smart guy, read the last few pages.

You're welcome.




I didn't see any obvious ones, please help me.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:48 pm to
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I didn't see any obvious ones

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please help me.
If you read the last few pages and didn't see any, there's no chance I can help you if you can't see the obvious.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42299 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:48 pm to
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Was that a smart decision?

Doesn’t matter what kind of decision it was - Suarez shouldn’t have punched him. Old Man can yell and follow all he wants - Suarez cannot touch old man. That’s basically the law.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:49 pm to
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If you read the last few pages and didn't see any, there's no chance I can help you if you can't see the obvious.


Yea, I'd be a little bitch and not post these things that obviously exist too.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Doesn’t matter what kind of decision it was - Suarez shouldn’t have punched him.
100% agree


Now, do you think it was a wise decision?

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Old Man can yell and follow all he wants - Suarez cannot touch old man. That’s basically the law.
100% agree again, but do you think that was a wise decision?
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Yea, I'd be a little bitch and not post these things that obviously exist too.

Bye snowflake. Run along.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84304 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Bye snowflake. Run along.


The quintessential shel post. Too scared to defend his claims, feigns superiority.
Posted by keeper05
BR
Member since Feb 2007
379 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 2:51 pm to
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He just got back 3 months ago. He deployed with the 256th INF BDE. He was an ALO for the 256th.


The deployment part is probably true, but he is not an ALO.
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