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re: Hot Take: Frank Wilson is an uninspiring retread

Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:14 pm to
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To shorten this up you could have just said Frank Wilson is nothing more than a glorified bag man.



WAS a glorified bag man. That's part of the point. The NIL ruling diminishes his prior value as that guy. They don't really need one anymore.

Wilson is fine as a positions coach due to his contacts. But y'all act like this is some major hire while giving him a title that could've gone to someone more valuable.

I'm not arguing that this impacts the gameday performance. I made that clear. But his rep took a hit (especially in coaching circles) after his HC tenure and that will only hurt him with recruits/negative recruiting.

Edit: bag man
accidentally wrote "bad"
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:32 pm
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5569 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:15 pm to
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Wilson as just positions coach? Fine. But Wilson with that AHC title is a waste. That title has value despite it being somewhat meaningless on the field.


without looking it up, tell me the last 3 AHC at LSU.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:15 pm to
Compare what he did as a position coach not a HC. He was a good coach that was an elite recruiter...probably best LSU had in the Miles/Orgeron era. Yes, this is not only a hot take, it's a dumb take.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425616 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:16 pm to
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and certainly not worth an AHC title.



ooOOOooOOOOoOoO

How much is that mythical ACH title worth in your mind?
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
5550 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:16 pm to
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Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5569 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:17 pm to
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WAS a glorified bad man. That's part of the point. The NIL ruling diminishes his prior value as that guy. They don't really need one anymore.


If you think NIL is the only way players are getting paid, you're dumb.

quote:

Wilson is fine as a positions coach due to his contacts. But y'all act like this is some major hire while giving him a title that could've gone to someone more valuable.


THE TITLE OF AHC MEANS NOTHING
quote:

I'm not arguing that this impacts the gameday performance. I made that clear. But his rep took a hit (especially in coaching circles) after his HC tenure and that will only hurt him with recruits/negative recruiting.


His record as a head coach at two bottom dwellers will do literally nothing in terms of his reputation. You honestly beleive Nick Saban will tell another 17 year old kid that "you shouldn't go to LSU because their running backs coach couldn't win games at UTSA"?
Posted by ss85
Member since Jun 2013
277 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:19 pm to
Ban please
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112482 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:21 pm to
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Hot Take: Frank Wilson is an uninspiring retread


quote:

by KevinSteeleFan
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5923 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:21 pm to
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Frank Wilson is nothing more than a glorified bag man.


That’s 100% why Kelly hired him
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:21 pm to
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How the frick do people like you function on a day to day basis



Calm down. Breathe deep. It's a message board. We're not working to cure cancer here.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112482 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Calm down. Breathe deep.


No no no no

Sit there and take your lumps. This is awful.

After you take those lumps feels free to ask for your account to be deleted and maybe forget about the internet in general. It’s for the best
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5569 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:27 pm to
It's truly one of the worst threads i've ever seen.

His vote somehow counts just the same as yours.
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:27 pm to
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it has literally no value when your head coach has 30 years of head coaching experience



No, dude. The point is that you use that AHC title to appeal to a coach who you want to bring in and pay well without giving them a coordinator role. Especially a coach who has or wants a coordinator spot.

It has nothing to do with being Kelly's #2. Ironically, Baylor did this to keep Joey McGuire from taking the UTSA job after Wilson was fired.

You don't use it on a guy who would've taken a positions job even without the title.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112482 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:30 pm to
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The point is that you use that AHC title to appeal to a coach who you want to bring in and pay well without giving them a coordinator role


Yeah we did that already and got The Godfather of New Orleans recruiting

NIL effected nearly everyone the same. You still need recruiters. Both on college rosters and on high school rosters.

Just stop.
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:30 pm to
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Now, if you AGREE with my assessment, give me a big thumbs DOWN.



Update: We're at 153 who agree and only 9 who disagree. Thanks, guys! I'm blown away. Appreciate the support.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5569 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:30 pm to
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The point is that you use that AHC title to appeal to a coach who you want to bring in and pay well without giving them a coordinator role. Especially a coach who has or wants a coordinator spot.

Oh you mean like Mickey Joseph?

The title does not matter. Not at all. It is 100% irrelevant.
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:38 pm to
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without looking it up, tell me the last 3 AHC at LSU.



Don't know, dude. I'll admit it because I'm not an LSU fan or even SEC fan. I think Mickey Joseph was the last one. I think he got the upgrade after the national title.

No clue who the prior 2 were (maybe Ensminger was AHC/OC?). I'm saying these things from an outside perspective, not someone sipping the Kool-Aid 90% of this board does.

Literally every message board worships the new coach and its new hires, so of course any negative post here is going to can trashed.
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:41 pm to
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by KevinSteeleFan


Yes, that's definitely not sarcasm on my part. Good grief.
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:47 pm to
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No no no no

Sit there and take your lumps. This is awful.

After you take those lumps feels free to ask for your account to be deleted and maybe forget about the internet in general. It’s for the best


Take my lumps? Oh, yes. This one stings. Backfired on me bigtime. I am completely shocked and personally hurt by the widespread disapproval.

Did you even read my last sentence?
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4728 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:48 pm to
I didn’t read a god damn word of that.
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