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Schumer said if we dont fund Ukraine its over. Well there you have it thank you
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:00 pm
Even Schumer realizes it, though I dont believe he meant to be taken literally lol.
I say again, at any given time there are 30 different societies, religions, countries, or people who are being unjustly ruled over by overlords by any name. Why this country? If it is the "threat" of Putin taking over the free world then why would Europe stand by and wait for us to pick up the bulk of the tab?
Because its about money it has nothing to do with sovereignty.
Our country is being overrun, and many many of them are bad hombres. We have over 100,000 drug deaths a year now, and illegals are costing us 100s of billion annually.
Can we please stop this insanity of spending.
I say again, at any given time there are 30 different societies, religions, countries, or people who are being unjustly ruled over by overlords by any name. Why this country? If it is the "threat" of Putin taking over the free world then why would Europe stand by and wait for us to pick up the bulk of the tab?
Because its about money it has nothing to do with sovereignty.
Our country is being overrun, and many many of them are bad hombres. We have over 100,000 drug deaths a year now, and illegals are costing us 100s of billion annually.
Can we please stop this insanity of spending.
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:01 pm to trinidadtiger
If you think about it overall. What does Ukraine bring to the table? It's something there that our Government does not want to turn lose of. I know what it is, but you can't get some American's to believe that.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:06 pm to trinidadtiger
What do we stand to gain by helping Ukraine? Is it worth billions?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:10 pm to trinidadtiger
That traitorous loser bowed to Zelensky.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:12 pm to trinidadtiger
He has an obligation to print money for his constituents, and if the lobbyists and MIC CEO's don't get the money, the frick it up for everyone.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 12:14 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:00 pm to trinidadtiger
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.
Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
Wilfred Owen beautifully dismantles the romantic view of war held by the neoconservative and neoliberal factions of the American political establishment.
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.
Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.
Wilfred Owen beautifully dismantles the romantic view of war held by the neoconservative and neoliberal factions of the American political establishment.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:02 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:
Schumer said if we dont fund Ukraine its over.
Promise?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:06 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:
if we don't fund Ukraine its over
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:08 pm to trinidadtiger
Instead of funding Ukraine, we need to finish the border wall.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:08 pm to trinidadtiger
Democrats will not stop destroying this country until they are stopped with force, or this country fractures.
They say it out loud.
They say it out loud.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:09 pm to trinidadtiger
Not seeing the downside here...
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:11 pm to trinidadtiger
Don't threaten me with a good time, Chuck.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:13 pm to SCLibertarian
Dulce et decorum est. Wasn’t Owen KIA not long before the armistice? The 10,000 Maniacs made a song out of this called The Latin One.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:24 pm to trinidadtiger
Who didn’t see this coming?!?
Imagine the billions of dollars and thousands of lives that could have been saved.
Imagine the billions of dollars and thousands of lives that could have been saved.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:56 pm to SloaneRanger
quote:
Wasn’t Owen KIA not long before the armistice?
He was killed one week before the Armistice. His mother was notified of his death on Armistice Day.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:49 am to trinidadtiger
It'll not be over till they get every last cent moved around
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 4:51 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:37 am to trinidadtiger
quote:
if we dont fund Ukraine its over.
Well, lets not fund them and see if old Chucky Boy is right...
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:07 am to trinidadtiger
I definitely caught that part “they don’t stand a chance without us”.
This poses an obvious question, what is the goal? Do we want them to have a chance? To win decisively? What is an acceptable outcome?
At what point do we become actually involved, and has that line already been crossed if you ask the Russians?
I never thought I’d see something like this. An open checkbook with no stated objective, no questions please.
This poses an obvious question, what is the goal? Do we want them to have a chance? To win decisively? What is an acceptable outcome?
At what point do we become actually involved, and has that line already been crossed if you ask the Russians?
I never thought I’d see something like this. An open checkbook with no stated objective, no questions please.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:29 am to trinidadtiger
Say less, Chuck
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