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Great film breakdown of LSU’s 1st failed Redzone attempt

Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:36 am
Youtube

Cliff notes: Denbrock’s play calling was NOT why they failed to score there.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:41 am to
Bad QB play makes everyone look bad.


OL looks bad.
WR look bad.
OC looks bad.
RB looks bad.
Defense is on the field too long and looks bad.

This why Daniels should be replaced.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by BadaBingBadaBoom
Lafourche Parish
Member since Mar 2022
2459 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:47 am to
Lawd have mercy, seeing it that way is a huge eye opener. I am convinced that Daniels can not read a defense nor just make the damn throw! Even the throw to Bradford on the first play, where he placed the ball was bad. Bradford and to turn back and catch the ball. If Daniels hits him in stride he never has to slow down and turn back, then continue on.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by Geauxtigersgeaux12
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
2421 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:49 am to
So your opinion is the entire offensive struggles including coaches is Daniels fault?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:50 am to
quote:

So your opinion is the entire offensive struggles including coaches is Daniels fault?


I’ve been told all week how no one is blaming everything on Jayden Daniels.
Posted by TommyDaTiger
Nawlins
Member since Dec 2015
11116 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:51 am to
Seems legit
Posted by MicahTiger
Member since Dec 2021
448 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:54 am to
I only gave his 1st drive a review.

1. It's a timing route, that's predicated off Lacy executing the rub. Lacy didn't execute the rub. He has to come off of that route by Thomas. Good play design, horrible execution out wide.

2. Multiple plays ran off the same action...well duh. That's what you do.

3. The failed 4th down...guy said hit Lacy...do you all see the piss poor release that Lacy made???? Like look at that, and tell me if you would have thrown it to Lacy. He also doesn't account the Nickel sitting there waiting for the ball to come across his face.


IT'S FRIDAY. STOP POSTING shite FROM LAST WEEK'S GAME LOLOLOLOL
Posted by Judah Benhur
Member since Sep 2023
9 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:55 am to
The plays leading up to the redzone were good.
The redzone plays not so much.
And Kelly needs to have a better feel for the game... 3 straight plays with zero yards but all of a sudden we're gonna miraculously score on 4th?
Get your three.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17101 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:55 am to
shite, even dropped passes can be blamed on daniels somewhat.

Dude does not understand throwing a catchable ball. Only throws laser beams with zero touch.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:56 am to
Good god almighty that O-line is looking rough
Posted by Geauxtigersgeaux12
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:57 am to
quote:

shite, even dropped passes can be blamed on daniels somewhat.


Holy shite. This stuff is insane. JD did not play good but this is just ridiculous.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:57 am to
He handicaps the offense. Anyone who watches football can see this. He's decent but he still handicaps what they can do. If you're in a shootout like what happened with FSU in second half you have no hope with JD. He's nothing more than a game manager throwing the ball. He can't top a defense off so the defense plays underneath and they take everything away including the run because it's easier to stack the box.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:58 am to
No it is not. He's right. On the deep passes especially the one to BTJ he noodle armed it to him. It's both on JD and the WR. Had he not underthrown that ball, the WRs trots in for 6 uncontested. He threw it so far behind him the S was able to get in the face of the WR. He still should've caught it but it was an awful fricking pass.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

shite, even dropped passes can be blamed on daniels somewhat.

Dude does not understand throwing a catchable ball. Only throws laser beams with zero touch.


If he’s as bad as you you say he is you wouldn’t have to say things like this.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34113 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:18 pm to
If you watch the whole thing he shows plenty of examples of bad play calling, O line fails and other mistakes unrelated to JD throughout.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2673 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:20 pm to
I said it before and I'll say it again. Did JD miss some opportunities. Yes. But if the line plays better and they don't drop balls and Malik doesn't slip it is a different game. Not having a jumbo package for goal line and going from shotgun every play is on coaching. I would have liked to see Nuss for a few series if nothing else to give D a different look and give JD some time on sidelines to watch what the D was doing but he did not lose this game. It was a team effort.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1932 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:30 pm to
Play calling was not great but it’s wasn’t the reason we lost. Most people in here want to blame one issue like the play calling, JD, WR drops, OL sucked. It’s all of the above but nobody and I mean nobody can call plays to cover up shitty blocking, crappy passes, and WR’s with waffle iron hands. Light a fire under their arse and make some personnel adjustments and play calling suddenly looks great.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4839 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Bad QB play makes everyone look bad.



bUT hE tAKeS cArE oF tHE fOotBaLl
Posted by jwp475
N. La.
Member since Oct 2010
559 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

He handicaps the offense. Anyone who watches football can see this. He's decent but he still handicaps what they can do. If you're in a shootout like what happened with FSU in second half you have no hope with JD. He's nothing more than a game manager throwing the ball. He can't top a defense off so the defense plays underneath and they take everything away including the run because it's easier to stack the box.


JD is nothing more than FOOLS GOLD


Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
15998 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:39 pm to
Posting while watching that vid. I've been giving Daniels the benefit of the doubt but the film is pretty damning on some of these plays.

1st play of the game. Daniels misses a wide open Nabers who blows by the safety AND Thomas who already has his man beat. What makes it worse is that Daniels is staring at them but still decides to check it down to the RB. Should have been a 75 yard TD to start the game.



2nd play looks like a poorly executed RPO and Daniels saves it with his legs and Taylor with the broken tackle. If Daniels hands it off the play gets blown up because Turner gets killed 1v1.

3rd play. Gilbreath completely whiffs and the play is dead right there. Doesn't help that Williams gives a soft shoulder to the DE. I don't like this play call, the only two options were Daniels eating it or trying to float a pass to Taylor breaking for the pylon. But that pass isn't going to happen with Daniels running left and multiple defenders in his face.

4th play. Misses Thomas open for the TD. But the timing is also off due to Thomas having to run around Lacy.

5th (4th and goal). Nothing there, if anything he should have bailed from the pocket sooner. As soon as the LB turns his hips, Daniels should have tucked it and hauled arse for the pylon. What makes it worse is that he still probably could have beat the DE out wide but tries a spin move right into the pursuit.


This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:44 pm
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