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re: What moron decided that Tulane should leave the SEC in 1966?

Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by johnnydrama
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:02 pm to
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People in Louisiana love the Tigers no matter if they went to another school or didnt go to college at all.
I'm from uptown NOLA and I can tell you that it depends on the age of the person. Older Tulane fans still have a great hatred of LSU. Younger ones that really haven't lived through the old rivalry enjoy rooting for a winning state football program.
Posted by Falcon Punch
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:07 pm to
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1957: 2-8
1958: 3-7
1959: 3-6-1
1960: 3-6-1
1961: 2-8
1962: 0-10
1963: 1-8-1
1964: 3-7
1965: 2-8
1966: 5-4-1
1967: 3-7
1968: 2-8
1969: 3-7


Looks about like Ole Gay's record as of lately.
Posted by rocketrichard
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:21 pm to
3 pages in this thread and no mention of the fact that Tulare hated the fact that the SEC did not have black players on its sports teams?

This is what I always have heard.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:32 pm to
Interesting.

Here's the story of the first black player in SEC history...

quote:

Nat Northington

KENTUCKY WIDEOUT (1966-67)

Northington and Greg Page both arrived at Kentucky in the fall of 1966 as the first black football players in SEC history.

Nat Northington

Northington became the one to officially break the color barrier on the field one year later, but that historic moment didn't come without heartbreak.

During an August practice in 1967, the Wildcats ran a pursuit drill that they had done in hundreds of practices. The drill is simple: One player has the football, the 11 defenders chase him and each hits the ballcarrier once and then backs off. Page, a defensive end, was the ballcarrier on this particular drill, and when the defenders cleared out, Page didn't get up.

Page never got up again. He was paralyzed and required a respirator. He died 38 days later.

The next day, Northington, a wide receiver who was Page's roommate, became the first black player to participate in an SEC game. Northington played several minutes in UK's 26-13 loss to Ole Miss in Lexington and appeared in three more games before leaving the team, distraught over his friend's death.

According to a Kentucky spokesman, Northington now lives in Louisville and refuses all interview requests.

"He paved the way for everybody," Florida senior wide receiver Jemalle Cornelius said. "Him being the first African-American in the SEC is big for us. There were a lot of African-Americans who have hopes and dreams of playing in the SEC, and that wouldn't have happened without him."
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 7:00 pm to
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3 pages in this thread and no mention of the fact that Tulare hated the fact that the SEC did not have black players on its sports teams?

This is what I always have heard.



Are you claiming the SEC banned blacks and put pressure on Tulane not to sign a black to a scholarship?

If that was the reason,why did Tulane wait three years after leaving the SEC to sign their first black football player to a scholarship?

Many state schools were admitting blacks before Tulane did, undergraduate and graduate programs and they used Paul Tulane's endowment stipulations for a white only school as an excuse. To claim Tulane was a civil rights trail blazer is absurd.

Never heard that in my life,
Posted by ULMaggie
Member since Jun 2010
133 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 8:25 am to
Tshirt fan hate from A&M typically stems from folks (typically Texas fans) who rip our institution. And when you find out later these people went to UTSA, Texas State or not even to college, it just kind of pisses you off.

The Aggie jokes and the reality of Texas A&M Uiniversity are quite different, though the smug way a lot of aggies defend themselves would probably set me off if I wasn't an Ag.
Posted by Fat Harry
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Posted on 10/28/11 at 9:57 am to
As Tulane fan, I can say with certainty that the easiest way to get rid of any lingering dislike of LSU is to marry a hot LSU grad.
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1591 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 10:18 am to
how many Tulane students finished the fall term at Texas A&M following Hurrican Katrina?

no offense to the Aggies but college station isn't exactly New Orleans... portions of the aggie campus look more like a prison than a resemblance to the tulane campus

and as a visiting college student in nawlins AND college station, it is my opinion it was aggies with the popsicle stick wedged up there backsides - all over new orleans, twentysomething locals much more friendly
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 10:21 am
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25919 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 11:52 am to
As a Louisiana native and having attended Tulane, I would say 1/3 followed LSU (but loved the Saints way more), a 1/3 hated LSU, and a 1/3 did not care one way or the other.

As far as 'a majority of Tulane's demographic being from the NE' comment. That's not true. The NE consitutues the largest % from out of state, but they are not the majority. It's something like 30-40%.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
47816 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 12:00 pm to
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1/3 followed LSU (but loved the Saints way more),


this is the metro area, i believe
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/28/11 at 12:10 pm to
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and as a visiting college student in nawlins AND college station, it is my opinion it was aggies with the popsicle stick wedged up there backsides


Can I hear more on this?
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 10/28/11 at 12:41 pm to
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threeputt


Did you go to Notre Dame and Tulane?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:41 pm to
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What moron decided that Tulane should leave the SEC in 1966?


That has to rank up there as one of the dumbest moves in the history of college sports administration.


We should consider that a lot of things that are obvious to us now in hindsight were not easily foreseeable in 1966, three in particular:

1) successful lawsuit by Georgia, Oklahoma, etc. to take control of TV contracts away from NCAA,

2) flood of TV money pouring into college football after said lawsuit, and

3) gravitation toward negotiating TV contracts at the conference level.

These three developments totally changed the game in college sports. Until they happened, there wasn't really all that much to gain from conference affiliation. I think this is why there were a bunch of major independents back then, whereas they are practically extinct today.

Also, the growth of the NCAA basketball tournament with auto-bids for pretty much every conference and huge amounts of money paid for the TV rights, was a big game-changer. It also led to conference TV deals in basketball, although obviously less lucrative than in football. These also would have been hard to predict in 1966.

In 1966, Tulane probably (accurately) saw sports as an expense, not a financial asset. Staying competitive in the SEC would have been costly and might have interfered with the academic mission, given their private status and limited funding.

Obviously, we can see now that they'd have been much better off taking the path that Vanderbilt did, but from the perspective of 1966, I don't think it was a stupid decision.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:55 pm to
I think the geographic footprint, Tulane's AAU designation, and the television market will force the Big 12 into taking Tulane next year. There is a reason that Texas schedules games at the Superdome every couple of years and that's because it open up their recruiting base down here and their fans like to come to New Orleans. I don't think Tulane's inclusion into the Big 12 will have a substantial impact on recruiting for LSU but it could have a small impact or just enough of an impact to knock LSU out of the national championship title every year. Tulane & Big 12 are not good news for LSU.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47816 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 2:09 pm to
you're forgetting bowl tie-ins...

now if you're an independent it's go to the BCS or sign a deal to go to the same bowl whether you're 6-6 or 11-1
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

La Tech have a lot of closet LSU fans


they were not in the closet when I was there.

I was one. We used to huddle around a radio and listen to LSU games, while we pretended to do our homework.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
2926 posts
Posted on 10/28/11 at 10:32 pm to
A lot of Tulane students, especially law students, ended up not having a campus to go to during the fall semester of Katrina. This could explain why they were arseholes.

As a Loyola law student during Katrina, I ended up, along with the rest of the 1L class on the University of Houston's campus. Needless to say lots of my friends and I still enjoy watching the Cougs play.

For the record, I cheer for Tulane, UL or any other in state school as long as they aren't playing LSU. Thank God Loyola ended their football program. I'd hate to be split when it would come down to gameday.

Tulane leaving the SEC was a poor move, but a good one for LSU. Tulane's appeal is New Orleans, academics and the Superdome, even back then Tulane Stadium was a great place to play and hosted Superbowls. Them leaving allowed for LSU to be the unquestioned dominant power in the state.
Posted by tigerswin03
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Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 10/29/11 at 12:47 am to
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i agree with you. at least based on my experience La tulane folks are not LSU haters (except maybe the law school grads ).
not true they (the majority that i know)hate lsu.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/29/11 at 2:01 am to
What moron decided that Tulane should leave the SEC in 1966?

Chicken ,Your a Genius :-) I totally agree!!
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