re: Texas has no fear of an increased SEC recruiting presence in Texas

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I genuinely feel we got screwed in 2008 which would makes the #s a little more favorable.

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Oh noos, somebody spit in the coolah!

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It isn't my first choice but our President is a Cal alum and he is convinced that Texas in a conference with Cal and Stanford is nirvana.

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So you have a West coast President pushing West coast on Texas. Sounds like a great idea. I can't wait to stay up to midnight and watch the horns play the beavers in a 67 to 58 defensive masterpiece. Stanford vs. Texas tech should be a real showcase. They might set a record for fewest people ever recorded at a game.

As for the death of the big 12. Everyone with a pulse knows Texas killed it. But really, it was more of a mercy kill Kavorkian style. Should be interesting in 5 years which teams thrive. I'm guessing ATM will overtake TU as the best team in Texas. Competition brings out the best in everyone.

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Dr Drunkenstein

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No. Dr Drunkenstein =

Drunkenstein,

The fact that this is at least the second long winded thread started by you about how the sips are not concerned with the implications of an SEC presence in Texas proves exactly the contrary point. You are concerned. Your egos just won't let you admit it.

Don't kid yourself into thinking that TU is innocent in the pending demise of the BigXII. Your greed and arrogance is what initiated the problems. TU intended all along for little brother and company to blindly follow you without ever considering potential better options elsewhere.

Now that A&M may not be following you blindly to the PAC10, TU has started a campaign slandering A&M as the death blow to the conference -- merely because for the first time they may be telling your sip brethren to shove it. This last ditch effort to save the BigXII likely won't guarantee long term stability of the conference unless each school is put on equal footing revenue-wise. As long as TU is successful in making it all about TU, then A&M would be wise to leave while the leaving is good.

This is how I see recruiting panning out in TX if A&M joins the SEC...BOTH LSU and TU will suffer. Kids who are born and raised in TX who want to stay at home but play in the premier conference (which by the way, will still be the SEC) will go to A&M over Texas. The PAC10 doesn't sell itself. The SEC does. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.

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stay in the Big 12 as well.

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In the "Big" what?

I believe there is a possibility of losing some recruits to the SEC, we already do to LSU. However, It's just not going to change the way Texas and OU put together top 10 recruiting classes.

OU will continue to successfully raid Texas for recruits. Texas will continue to get its fair share (lion share) of the top Texas recruits. The aggy's and SEC will also continue to successfully recruit in Texas.

The beauty of UT and OU's position is the opening of prime recruiting area of SoCal. OU already does a good job of pulling talent from there. UT has had some success in the past, with the biggest name being heisman winner Ricky Williams.

IMO, Texas does open up its home state to the SEC, but this minor irritation will be made up by recruiting the talent rich SoCal. The rich keep getting richer. It's good to be king and it's good to be a Longhorn. Hook'em!

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Texas availed itself the best. Interestingly enough, if the SEC or ACC tiebreaker system had been used, Texas would have gone to the Conference title game instead of OU.

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Did Texas agree to the Big 12 tiebreaker system the way A&M voted for the revenue deal?

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this is all useless except for my point that, after all 3 games between the tied teams were played, Texas was still #2 in the BCS. Then, a week goes by, Texas lays & kills A&M and then drops to #3 because A&M sucked so much in the BCS

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So they only suck for your BCS ranking and not OU's? After OU played TT all 3 had played, but OU had already played A&M and not OSU. Texas had already played OSU but not A&M. Kind of unfair to look at the standings at that point, but not surprising you'd want to do that sinice in beneifts you. After all 3 had played all 8 of their Big 12 games, OU had a better SOS. Maybe it was also because they scheduled TCU and Cincinnati OOC instead of UTEP and Fla Atlantic?
Blame the Aggies all you want, it just makes you look stupid since everyone knows OU played them also.

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only that we ended the season with A&M

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Do you not understand when you played them doesn't matter? Its the cumuliative total of the season, the only reason you were ahead is because you played harder teams eariler. If you played A&M earlier, OU would have been ahead sooner (no pun intended) and you won't have caught them. You are also completely ignoring that OSU helped OU that last week as well, its not all about UT.

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So they only suck for your BCS ranking and not OU's? After OU played TT all 3 had played, but OU had already played A&M and not OSU. Texas had already played OSU but not A&M. Kind of unfair to look at the standings at that point, but not surprising you'd want to do that sinice in beneifts you. After all 3 had played all 8 of their Big 12 games, OU had a better SOS. Maybe it was also because they scheduled TCU and Cincinnati OOC instead of UTEP and Fla Atlantic?

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He doesn't get it.

Texas didn't / wouldn't come to the SEC the last time we expanded. Nor did A & M, Florida State or Miami.

Why, you ask? Cause you can go to the ACC, Big East or Big 12 and have your run of the place. Not so in the SEC however!