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re: Sad to see the SEC letting anyone in conference.

Posted on 9/30/11 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/30/11 at 2:56 pm to
And still no answer as to why keep Vandy. I figured you wouldn't have one.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:01 pm to
Wasn't arguing that point with you, Chief. Everybody here is going to say history. Vandy is a founding member of the SEC and has been in the conference for 80 years. Seems like reason enough to me.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:12 pm to
Well if we gonna invite everyone else in here just change the name of the conference. Won't be southeastern anymore which is the reason for the start of the thread. The Houston reference was a joke that makes more sense than having them instead of Vandy. I am all SEC and want only the best schools in the south. Like I said before, SEC should go after Florida State instead of even considering talking to Missouri.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:12 pm to
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I know Vandy is not going anywhere. If the only way A M was to join the SEC was to get rid of one SEC school, which would it be?


The frick? "get rid of one SEC school"? Why the hell are we discussing this?

I really need to quit posting in stupid threads.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61299 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:29 pm to
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And still no answer as to why keep Vandy. I figured you wouldn't have one.


you were already told once that a conference is more than football. Academics do matter. They aren't the driving force but to deny their relevance is idiotic.

why is this fact having such a hard time penetrating your brain?

its not ALL money and football. If that was true, the Pac12 would have taken OU and OSU, The SEC wouldn't take issue with East Carolina and potentially WVU, the Big10 would not care about AAU status...

Holy shite man, stop being so dense.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10201 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:32 pm to
You start a thread essentially about the integrity of the conference and then toss around the idea of kicking Vandy out?
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 3:33 pm
Posted by will0637
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2006
419 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:37 pm to
Vandy has a higher winning % than Mississippi State. Maybe we should kick them out instead. I mean why have two mediocre teams in Mississippi. Talk about overkill (small population and no TV markets). Vandy has about the same winning % as USC and UK (50%).
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:40 pm to
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You start a thread essentially about the integrity of the conference and then toss around the idea of kicking Vandy out?

Best conferences should have the best teams. Last I checked, Vandy was not one of them. Get out from under your rock. It's year 2011. And yes, football is the biggest reason for conference expansion. Football brings in the most money.
Posted by will0637
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2006
419 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:48 pm to
This isnt the English Premier League where the bottom two soccer teams get relgated to the second division and the top two teams from the second divisions are promoted up. Though that does sounds like a neat idea. If this was the case, LSU would have probably been booted out of the SEC many times in the 90s. There are other factors such as tradition, rivalries, location, etc.

If you want the best, start a conference with the top 16 programs in the country and see how many wins LSU ends up with every year. Not going to be good every year. Historically, LSU would struggle to have even a winning record.
Posted by will0637
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2006
419 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 3:51 pm to
Let's face it, you are going to have some "have nots" in a conference. Some teams will struggle but have a "feel good" year once in a while. I.e. Ole Miss, MSU, USC, UK, and Vandy. Those "have nots" should then fit in because of location, tradition, and rivalries.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 4:01 pm to
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If you want the best, start a conference with the top 16 programs in the country and see how many wins LSU ends up with every year. Not going to be good every year. Historically, LSU would struggle to have even a winning record.


Great idea, we are in and I guess your team would be out. Guess you don't mind paying your employees sleeping on the job. Obviously you are fool if you think LSU was ever at the bottom of the bottom dwellers.Try google search it works.Bama, Tenn and Florida are the only two schools in the SEC LSU has a losing record against. LSU would not be booted out.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 4:10 pm
Posted by dansr731
Slidell
Member since Dec 2009
596 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 4:39 pm to
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Do you follow football? Do you see how there is a former conference USA team now Big East who is ranked in the top 25 not long after joining the conference.
Are you talking about South Florida that got smoked by unranked Pitt and is about to be unranked?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 4:43 pm to
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Bayoufightingtiger
Stop. Just stop. You are giving all of the rest of us LSU fans a bad name.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 4:52 pm to
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Vandy has a higher winning % than Mississippi State. Maybe we should kick them out instead. I mean why have two mediocre teams in Mississippi. Talk about overkill (small population and no TV markets). Vandy has about the same winning % as USC and UK (50%).

Well the reasoning to add teams because of media expose would certaintly rule out the Mississippi schools.
Posted by LSUtah
Salt Lake City
Member since Feb 2011
872 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 5:06 pm to
Vandy is a charter member, simple as that. Just because they have a different mission with academics and a slightly less passionate approach to athletics does not make them any less valuable. We are not the Big East that just tossed aside Temple.

If you had 12 kids, and one had a disability, you just toss him/her aside? Dude, your an arse.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61601 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 5:15 pm to
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Houston has a way bigger media market than Nashville.

OK, you keep throwing that out there. Out of 4 million people in the greater Houston area, about 50,000 give a shite about Houston Cougars. And that's being generous.

Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 8:26 pm to
Vandy is grandfather in just like ole miss. That is the difference between the SEC and all out conference.
Posted by avondale88
Montgomery
Member since May 2009
2634 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:11 pm to
The OP has to bea pid kid. Vandy brings a lot to the table, and I'm not talking just about academics. This kid needs to look up and see how Vandy always is competitive in basketball, and baseball, among other sports. Hell, I was in TS in the seventies, when Vandy had a good team and we were worried that Vandy might beat us. Guess what OP, there is life outside of football. If you knew you history, Vandy has more accomplishments, athletic wise, than fellow CHARTER SEC members. I might be old, but I hate when idiots start threads like this, yet I'm an ever greater idiot for reading them and responding.
Posted by AginAL
Member since Dec 2010
1378 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:20 pm to
Looking at that US map really points towards a hole in NC.....

I bet that's Slive's dream.

UNC
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
92952 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:49 pm to
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I bet that's Slive's dream.

UNC




UNC never leaves Duke and Duke never leaves UNC. And, now that the ACC is the best BB conference in the Universe, neither are going anywhere.
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