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Missouri to the SEC possibly leads to A&M-LSU on Thanksgiving weekend?

Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:48 pm
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:48 pm
I think Missouri coming in defintely opens up an intersting possibility for regarding LSU and Thanksgiving. If Arkansas is paired with Missouri as their cross divisional rival, they almost HAVE to play that weekend. Here's why:

Looking at the SEC schedule for Thanksgiving this year you've got 4 SEC matchups played on that weekend every year:

Ark vs LSU
Bama vs Auburn
Ole Miss vs MSU
Tennessee vs Kentucky

There are three annual OOC in-state rivalries played that week by SEC teams:

GA vs Ga Tech
USC vs Clemson
Florida vs FSU

That leaves Vandy with a hole to fill, and they are playing Wake Forest that Saturday.

A&M, Missouri, and Vandy need to play someone that weekend. Since A&M would be in the West and the other two in the East, that rules out A&M playing either Missouri or Vandy annually on that weekend. It also wouldn't work out for A&M to simply rotate between the two with a 14 team league since there is no guarantee that at least one of them will be on A&M's schedule every year. And, an annual Missouri-Vandy tilt on Thanksgiving wouldn't be attractive to either school. A Missouri-Vandy matchup would leave A&M having to fill a non-conference slot that weekend--and the prime suspect for that has already declined. In fact, Bill Byrne indicated yesterday that if A&M and Texas do play in the future, it likely will be in September, not on Thansgiving, so he obviously believes that A&M will have a conference game that weekend.

The problem that everyone faces on Thanksgiving is having an attractive enough game to get students and season ticket holders to give up part of their Thanksgiving weekend. That's why you see so many big rivalry games that weekend. That's also one justification Arkansas has used for playing in Little Rock when they host a game that weekend--students are at home and Fayetteville is a ghost town.

I just can't see the rationalization for having A&M, Missouri, and Vanderbilt left hanging, when the SEC can have only one school left with an open dance card that weekend (Vandy), as they do now. If Arkansas is going to claim Missouri as their cross-divisional rival, they almost HAVE to play Missouri so that both Missouri and A&M (LSU) have suitable opponents that weekend. Of course, the negative is that as a cross-divisional game it would set up a possible rematch in an SEC title game, but what are the odds of that happening.

Of course, if Missouri is NOT paired with Arkansas as a cross divisional rivalry, then that changes all of the above. A&M and Missouri could play that weekend if that is the pairing, so that Arkansas and LSU could stay that weekend.
Posted by Ray Penpillage
Western Slope
Member since Nov 2010
9409 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:01 pm to
Astute observation.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:07 pm to
I liked this thread better the first six times it was posted this week.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

I liked this thread better the first six times it was posted this week.

i know, right?

still love the idea though
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:23 pm to
In fairness this one used the most words. I didn't read it but I bet it has some new, really good points.

And the idea is badass enough for a few more threads on it
Posted by MaroonDontRun
Richmond, Texas
Member since Feb 2004
168 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:29 pm to
I approve of this suggestion!



Posted by Mer Rouge
Dominion Republic
Member since Oct 2006
316 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 9:06 am to
ATM can play utep for all I give a crap. You will be a September cup cake and like it. We'll put some extra frosting on top to make you feel better.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 9:17 am to
quote:

ATM can play utep for all I give a crap. You will be a September cup cake and like it. We'll put some extra frosting on top to make you feel better.


Who pissed in your oatmeal?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27505 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 9:18 am to
you don't think that LSU and A&M will try to reunite the opening game that we used to have? From 86-95 we opened up with Texas A&M all but 2 years.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22029 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 9:21 am to
slackhouse, I went to five of those games (1990-1994). It was brutally hot for those games because they were during the day. would be nice to have that game later in the year, when the weather was nicer.
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 9:33 am to
quote:

slackhouse, I went to five of those games (1990-1994).

Those were the five seasons that I was in college. We didn't lose a home game in any of them. Those were the days.

My man crush on Bucky Richardson is still as strong as ever!
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Who pissed in your oatmeal?


Go to Mer Rouge,LA and you'll see why he's like that. I'd be pissy too if I had to live or grow up there.

77 posts since 2006, maybe his dail up internet service keeps going out or they don't get good cell phone signal in rurul Morehouse Parish.
This post was edited on 10/21/11 at 10:23 am
Posted by JR Ewing
College Station
Member since Aug 2011
10 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 10:36 am to
I'd really like to see this as a home and home on Thanksgiving. The rivalry would become heated quickly, and recruits from LA and Texas would be watching that game with their families every year. Death Valley and Kyle would be rocking and when it's not at home, you eat barbecue or cajun food with your bourbon. Win/Win...
This post was edited on 10/23/11 at 7:56 am
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 11:48 am to
I hope A&M/LSU becomes a real rivalry. It is so easy to make fun of you, and the odds of you ever offering serious competition are slim for at least the next decade.
Posted by Mer Rouge
Dominion Republic
Member since Oct 2006
316 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:12 pm to
"I hope A&M/LSU becomes a real rivalry. It is so easy to make fun of you, and the odds of you ever offering serious competition are slim for at least the next decade."

What a joke! Let me guess, as soon is ATM gets up to SEC speed ya'll will want to drop them for Tech or Monroe on Thanksgiving. Boohoo Florida is to good we want USCe. What a bunch of losers our fans have become.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

and the odds of you ever offering serious competition are slim for at least the next decade.


Sadly, you are being serious. Get some perspective
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:28 pm to
frick that! I grew up going to the Arkansas-LSU game the day after Thanksgiving every other year. It's my favorite game of the season and there have been some epic games the last decade and the manufactured rivalry is actually turning into a real rivalry.

I'm not going to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Arkansas has played LSU about as many times as A&M has.
This post was edited on 10/21/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
Member since Jul 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

A&M, Missouri, and Vandy need to play someone that weekend. Since A&M would be in the West and the other two in the East, that rules out A&M playing either Missouri or Vandy annually on that weekend.


Why couldn't ATM and Mizzou be permanent cross-division and play on Thanksgiving weekend every year? Sorry if I missed where addressed this.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:35 pm to
&MYou've played Arky 54 times, Aggie 50

ETA: records

34-20 against Arkansas
27-20-3 against A&M (but I can rationalize that to make A&M better )
This post was edited on 10/21/11 at 12:38 pm
Posted by texmariner84
H-town
Member since Aug 2011
556 posts
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Why couldn't ATM and Mizzou be permanent cross-division and play on Thanksgiving weekend every year?


Because A&M fans care as much about Mizzou as say LSU cares about ohhh I'll just say Rutgers. It would be a forced "Rivalry" and Blah.

LSU vs A&M would be very similar to Texas A&M vs Tex. Recruits, nationally recognized teams, co-worker trash talk, etc. etc.
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