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If you're the Big XII, and you want to expand to 12...

Posted on 10/6/11 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 12:45 pm
Rank these schools in the order that you want them in your conference, and why you'd prefer each to the others (or vice versa):

SMU
Houston
Tulsa
Colorado St.
Louisville
New Mexico
New Mexico St.
LA Tech (lulz)
Wyoming

I didn't include BYU & TCU since they seem like the obvious first 2 choices.

Take into consideration the following (in no particular order or weighting of importance relative to one another):

Geographic Location
Academics
Strength of Athletic dept
TV Markets
Posted by JKtiger4ever
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2011
357 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:18 pm to
SMU is a no-brainer, and I guess Colorado State would be good to get back the Colorado market
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:38 pm to
louisville
memphis
la tech/tulane/ull (pick one obviously)


nobody else on the list really brings anything to the table
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 1:39 pm
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

SMU is a no-brainer
no it's not
small fanbase in a market that they already have locked down

I'm puzzled why they're inviting TCU though, so why not SMU
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60763 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Louisville


only team in the list I'd be interested in
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12017 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:58 pm to
If I were the big 12, I'd go after Rice and Tulane. Houston & New Orleans markets. Elite academics.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:00 pm to
bring back the SWC
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53732 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:13 pm to
someone on another board said tulane, uab, and memphis... if you want to weaken the SEC in the long run, help build those programs up
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5440 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:15 pm to
Why not Southern Miss?
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
802 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Rank these schools in the order that you want them in your conference, and why you'd prefer each to the others (or vice versa):

SMU
Houston
Tulsa
Colorado St.
Louisville
New Mexico
New Mexico St.
LA Tech (lulz)
Wyoming


Of this? Louisville easily #1. Then it gets dicey.

Two I would go after - U Central Fla and U South Florida.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11049 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:19 pm to
(Geography, Academics, Athletics, TV)
SMU: 1+1+0+1=3
Houston: 1+0+0+1=2
Tulsa: 1+1+0+0=2
Colorado St.: 0+0+(-1, no baseball)+0=-1
Louisville (-1)+0+1+1=1
New Mexico 1+0+0+1=2
New Mexico St. 1+0+0+0=1
LA Tech (lulz) 1+0+0+0=1
Wyoming 0+0+(-1)+0=-1

So I guess it's New Mexico, SMU and Houston and Tulsa.
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 2:28 pm
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Why not Southern Miss?


Why southern miss? It's a better option than a texas school but it still doesn't have much room for the big 12 to claw their way in.
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
2076 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:19 pm to
and everyone knows TCU and SMU dont get along. TCU left CUSA when the invite was extended to SMU.

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53732 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Why not Southern Miss?


no market
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

(Geography, Academics, Athletics, TV)
SMU: 1+0+0+1=2
Houston: 1+0+0+1=2
Tulsa: 1+0+0+0=1
Colorado St.: 0+0+(-1, no baseball)+0=-1
Louisville (-1)+0+1+1=1
New Mexico 1+1+0+1=3
New Mexico St. 1+0+0+0=1
LA Tech (lulz) 1+0+0+0=1
Wyoming 0+0+(-1)+0=-1

So I guess it's New Mexico, SMU and Houston and then just pick one (UTEP as a rival?)



being in texas is a negative for geography/tv, not a positive.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

quote:

Why not Southern Miss?



no market



not that I've polled or anything, but I'm absolutely sure they're #4 at best in their region, even behind a certain out of state team to the west.
Posted by Lexo
LaPlace
Member since May 2008
3436 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

(Geography, Academics, Athletics, TV)
SMU: 1+0+0+1=2



SMU a 0 for academics? Really?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11049 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

being in texas is a negative for geography/tv, not a positive.


Not if you're Bevo and their b!tch and you want your fans to be able to drive to the arse-whoopins/play in front of Texas recruits.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11049 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

SMU a 0 for academics? Really?


Good point, Fixed it. Didn't realize they and Tulsa are both Top 100 in US News rankings. Or that both CSU and Wyoming are ahead of Louisville!
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Globalx39
Where I live
Member since Jun 2006
804 posts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 3:14 pm to
Why not have Air Force for the Colorado market.

Teams I would look at if I were the Big 12 (in no particular order)

Air Force
UNLV
LA Tech
Nevada
Tulsa
Memphis
Southen Miss
BYU
New Mexico/State
Wyoming
Houston
SMU
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