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re: I only see four legit division split options...
Posted on 10/20/11 at 8:25 pm to Chicken
Posted on 10/20/11 at 8:25 pm to Chicken
Why not just go to 10 conference games? Once we hit 16 teams, it would work out fine and we'd at least only have 2 shitty games a year OOC.
Move Auburn to the East and Mizzou goes to the West. With 10 conference games, you get 2 permanent cross divisional rivals and 2 non-permanent cross divisional games while we have 14 teams.
That way when we go to 16 teams, you are still playing 2/3 of the conference on a yearly basis making it a little more legitimate than playing basically half.
Over the top and I'm sure most won't like it, but it could work, and would make for better overall schedules.
The negative is teams could start pussing out even more in OOC with claims of "the SEC schedule at 10 games is just too tough.
Move Auburn to the East and Mizzou goes to the West. With 10 conference games, you get 2 permanent cross divisional rivals and 2 non-permanent cross divisional games while we have 14 teams.
That way when we go to 16 teams, you are still playing 2/3 of the conference on a yearly basis making it a little more legitimate than playing basically half.
Over the top and I'm sure most won't like it, but it could work, and would make for better overall schedules.
The negative is teams could start pussing out even more in OOC with claims of "the SEC schedule at 10 games is just too tough.
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Posted on 10/20/11 at 8:56 pm to Geaux2002
Lets make it more north/south
North - Tennesse, Missouri, Vandy, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina
South - LSU, Miss State, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, Texas Atm, Ole Miss
Permanent Opponents
Alabama - Auburn
Tennessee - Florida
Missouri - Texas Atm
LSU - Arkansas
VAndy - Ole Miss
Georgia - South Carolina
North - Tennesse, Missouri, Vandy, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, South Carolina
South - LSU, Miss State, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, Texas Atm, Ole Miss
Permanent Opponents
Alabama - Auburn
Tennessee - Florida
Missouri - Texas Atm
LSU - Arkansas
VAndy - Ole Miss
Georgia - South Carolina
Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:22 pm to Chicken
option #1 seems like the obvious winner to me - the others are poorly balanced and the recruiting advantages seem well distributed with the first option:
quote:
SEC East
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
South Carolina
Mizzou
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
SEC West
LSU
Alabama
Auburn
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Miss State
Ole Miss
Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:30 pm to molsusports
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:04 pm to AU86
AU86, that writer didn't think things through enough...
You cannot put Auburn in the East without moving Tennessee to the West. If you have both Tennessee and Auburn in the East, and Bama in the West, you will lose either the Bama/Auburn game or the Bama/Tennessee game. Anyone with any sense knows that it won’t happen.
You cannot put Auburn in the East without moving Tennessee to the West. If you have both Tennessee and Auburn in the East, and Bama in the West, you will lose either the Bama/Auburn game or the Bama/Tennessee game. Anyone with any sense knows that it won’t happen.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 2:55 am to Chicken
Im sure im late, but what about alabama and auburn to the east, vandy to the west. Since alabama has both its rivals in the same conference, bama can have lsu maybe as their perminant rival.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 6:22 am to Chicken
quote:
AU86, that writer didn't think things through enough...
You cannot put Auburn in the East without moving Tennessee to the West. If you have both Tennessee and Auburn in the East, and Bama in the West, you will lose either the Bama/Auburn game or the Bama/Tennessee game. Anyone with any sense knows that it won’t happen.
Go to a nine game conference schedule. move AU to the east and establish two permanent division rivals. Problem solved. Bammer could keep their holy game with Tennessee.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 8:18 am to Chicken
IMO there should be no permanent cross division opponents and you should play them all on a rotating basis.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 10:31 am to Chicken
West
LSU
Ole Miss
MSU
TAMU
Arky
Alabama
Vanderbilt
East
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Tennessee
South Carolina
Missouri
Auburn
Iron Bowl is Auburn and Alabama's permanent opponent game
Auburn vs Georgia becomes a division game
Vandy is easy driving distance for Arky/MSU/Ole Miss/Bama
Vandy is Tennessee's permanent opponent game
Missouri is Arky's permanent opponent game
MSU fans can drive to UK
Ole Miss and Georgia is an easy drive
Missouri/Arky
TAMU/South Carolina
LSU/Florida
Vandy/Tennessee
Auburn/Alabama
Ole Miss/Georgia
MSU/Kentucky
Alabama vs Tennessee falls by the wayside (and Tennessee doesn't try to fight it). Dont forget LSU and Auburn had very little history until the late 80s and LSU/Ole Miss was always the last Saturday in October. The SEC hierarchy is not nearly as sentimental as we want them to be. 3rd Saturday in October was preserved because BOTH sides lobbied hard for it. I seriously doubt Tennessee will lobby hard for that game to be preserved while they are on hard times and BAMA is a monster.
After the massacre this saturday, pay attention to the Tennessee media and how suddenly UT vs BAMA may have to be sacrificed for the good of the conference
Posted on 10/21/11 at 11:17 am to supatigah
East
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
West
LSU
Alabama
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Go to 9 conference games. Make a rule you must schedule an OOC game with atleast one BCS conference opponent. Make a rule where when playing 5 home conference games you must schedule an away game with a OOC BCS opponent.
One conference cross division rival. I don think they should have any, but Alabama is a bunch of pussies.
Match Ups
Alabama/Auburn (bama would pick AU over UT; anyone telling you different is full of shite)
Arkansas/Tennessee
Texas A&M/Florida
LSU/Georgia
Missouri/South Carolina
Mississippi St./Kentucky
Mississippi/Ole Miss
Two fully rotating cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 7years. 8 total conference games.
Three fully rotating cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 5 years. 9 total conference games.
One fully rotating and one permanent cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 12 years. 8 total conference games.
Two fully rotating and one permanent cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 6 years. 9 total conference games.
I would rather go strictly east/west geography and that would preserve all these dumb rivalries; however, Bama is a bunch of pussies. Missouri in the east is just retarded also. This split with the 9 conference games and rule set up I think could work.
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
West
LSU
Alabama
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Go to 9 conference games. Make a rule you must schedule an OOC game with atleast one BCS conference opponent. Make a rule where when playing 5 home conference games you must schedule an away game with a OOC BCS opponent.
One conference cross division rival. I don think they should have any, but Alabama is a bunch of pussies.
Match Ups
Alabama/Auburn (bama would pick AU over UT; anyone telling you different is full of shite)
Arkansas/Tennessee
Texas A&M/Florida
LSU/Georgia
Missouri/South Carolina
Mississippi St./Kentucky
Mississippi/Ole Miss
Two fully rotating cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 7years. 8 total conference games.
Three fully rotating cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 5 years. 9 total conference games.
One fully rotating and one permanent cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 12 years. 8 total conference games.
Two fully rotating and one permanent cross division games would mean a home and home is played with every cross division team within 6 years. 9 total conference games.
I would rather go strictly east/west geography and that would preserve all these dumb rivalries; however, Bama is a bunch of pussies. Missouri in the east is just retarded also. This split with the 9 conference games and rule set up I think could work.
This post was edited on 10/21/11 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/21/11 at 11:29 am to Colonel Flagg
I would love to see Kentucky somehow get Texas A&M as their permanent West opponent. Sure both would be losses most years but playing both Florida and Texas A&M every year might help recruiting enough for Kentucky to be more of a competitive team consistently.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 11:34 am to supatigah
quote:
West
LSU
Ole Miss
MSU
TAMU
Arky
Alabama
Vanderbilt
East
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Tennessee
South Carolina
Missouri
Auburn
Iron Bowl is Auburn and Alabama's permanent opponent game
Auburn vs Georgia becomes a division game
Vandy is easy driving distance for Arky/MSU/Ole Miss/Bama
Vandy is Tennessee's permanent opponent game
Missouri is Arky's permanent opponent game
MSU fans can drive to UK
Ole Miss and Georgia is an easy drive
Missouri/Arky
TAMU/South Carolina
LSU/Florida
Vandy/Tennessee
Auburn/Alabama
Ole Miss/Georgia
MSU/Kentucky
Alabama vs Tennessee falls by the wayside (and Tennessee doesn't try to fight it). Dont forget LSU and Auburn had very little history until the late 80s and LSU/Ole Miss was always the last Saturday in October. The SEC hierarchy is not nearly as sentimental as we want them to be. 3rd Saturday in October was preserved because BOTH sides lobbied hard for it. I seriously doubt Tennessee will lobby hard for that game to be preserved while they are on hard times and BAMA is a monster.
After the massacre this saturday, pay attention to the Tennessee media and how suddenly UT vs BAMA may have to be sacrificed for the good of the conference
This. This is in the best interest of the conference as a whole. Trying to preserve one rivalry game against the good of the conference as a whole is both shortsighted and extremely ignorant. I do not think either of those descriptions fit the SEC as a whole, so I believe what is best for the conference will eventually prevail.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 11:39 am to supatigah
quote:
Vandy is easy driving distance for Arky/MSU/Ole Miss/Bama
I see no reason to put Vandy in the west instead of Missouri. They should just put AU if we plan on having a cross division rival set up.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 11:53 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:says the fan of a team that has two so-called untouchable rivalry games...
Trying to preserve one rivalry game against the good of the conference as a whole is both shortsighted and extremely ignorant.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:17 pm to Chicken
quote:
says the fan of a team that has two so-called untouchable rivalry games...
FTR, I enjoyed the AU/UF rivalry more than the AU/UGA rivalry in the 80's and 90's. And the AU/UF rivalry was more bitter with better games in the 80's and early 90's.
If the AU/UGA game was standing in the way of what was best for the conference, I would have NO problem, ZERO with losing it.
Also, I have seen many AU fans say they would give up the IB if needed.
You need to realize this is just as much about bama not wanting to risk AU getting stronger as it is about the Bama/UT game.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:19 pm to daboman of Aggieland
quote:
I've been a big supporter of Mizzou joining the SEC. However, if they wind up in the east and aren't paired with us, I'm afraid they will turn back into a doormat. The Big 12 started playing football in 1996. Look at their history before they started recruiting Texas. I would hate to see a good add turn into dead weight.
You can't just point at Mizzou pre-1996 and say that's what they'll become again if they no longer play a team in Texas. TV exposure for football has changed dramatically in the past 15 years. If they join the SEC--assuming the current TV contract stipulations are maintained--then all but 1 of their games are guaranteed to be broadcast nationally on either CBS, ESPN, or the SEC network (produced and distributed by ESPN). I do not think going to the east will be as detrimental to their recruiting efforts as you suggest.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:42 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
It is completely obvious Alabama is making a big mess of a great move for the conference for stupid selfish reasons.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 1:21 pm to Chicken
how about make a north and south
NORTH
s. car
vandy
kentucky
mizzou
texas am
tenn
arkansas
SOUTH
LSU
auburn
Bama
Ole miss
Miss state
Florida
Georgia
NORTH
s. car
vandy
kentucky
mizzou
texas am
tenn
arkansas
SOUTH
LSU
auburn
Bama
Ole miss
Miss state
Florida
Georgia
Posted on 10/21/11 at 4:39 pm to supatigah
quote:
I seriously doubt Tennessee will lobby hard for that game to be preserved while they are on hard times and BAMA is a monster.
After the massacre this saturday, pay attention to the Tennessee media and how suddenly UT vs BAMA may have to be sacrificed for the good of the conference
Posted on 10/21/11 at 4:39 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Also, I have seen many AU fans say they would give up the IB if needed.
You need to realize this is just as much about bama not wanting to risk AU getting stronger as it is about the Bama/UT game.
It's funny to see Auburn fans spew their 'aubsessed' crap and then make comments like this.
This post was edited on 10/21/11 at 4:43 pm
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