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re: I only see four legit division split options...
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:16 am to LA kid but AU fan
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:16 am to LA kid but AU fan
quote:you can't get everything you want...you don't have an annual game against Tennessee now, so Auburn/Tenn won't be a consideration.
With that proposal, you lose Tennessee/Florida. AU would miss out on Tennessee which is part of the appeal of moving to the east.
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Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:20 am to Chicken
quote:
you can't get everything you want...you don't have an annual game against Tennessee now, so Auburn/Tenn won't be a consideration.
Right. I'm just giving you the AU perspective. I'd still want to go to the East even if you moved Tennessee to the West.
I'd be interested to know if UT fans would be willing to leave all their east opponents in order to save the Third Saturday game.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:23 am to Chicken
quote:
4. Take option 2 and flip flop Tennessee and Miss State:
SEC East:
Florida
Georgia
Miss State
South Carolina
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
SEC West:
LSU
Alabama
Mizzou
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Comments/Issues: Alabama and Tennessee in same division...permanent rivals are:
LSU / Florida
Alabama / Auburn
Mizzou / Vanderbilt
Arkansas / South Carolina
Texas A&M / Georgia
Tennessee / Kentucky
Ole Miss / Miss State
You could pair up Texas A&M and Kentucky, and let Tennessee and Georgia play each other. Therefore, none of the top teams in the East would get the benefit of playing Texas A&M (for the Texas exposure), and Tennessee still gets to play Bama and UGA every year, but loses yearly Florida game:
Permanent games:
LSU / Florida
Alabama / Auburn
Mizzou / Vanderbilt
Arkansas / South Carolina
Texas A&M / Kentucky
Tennessee / Georgia
Ole Miss / Miss State
Thoughts?
I think I have nailed it...someone send this to Slive.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:26 am to Chicken
I think they just need to put the 7 teams in each division that make the most sense, like # 1. All you need to do at that point is "rename" the divisions like the Big 10 did. It doesn't have to be geographical.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:31 am to Springlake Tiger
quote:no, but I think an effort has to be made to make it geographical. I think my option 4, while not perfectly geographical, is geographical enough to satisfy most teams in the conference...Tennessee would have to biggest issue, losing Florida.
It doesn't have to be geographical.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:32 am to Chicken
quote:Sure. As long as it's Missouri, we're fine with being paired with #14. Any of the ACC schools that have been discussed woudl be fine with A&M. Fine with any of the current SEC East schools if some swapping has to take place. Not fine with someone like West Virginia.
So, option 1 with Mizzou/A&M paired up? Would A&M be ok with this?
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:34 am to NorthshoreTiger76
Option 5. South Carolina is in the east. Aubie, Bama and UTk are together, "forever"
SEC East:
Florida
Alabama
Tennessee
Georgia
Auburn
Kentucky
South Carolina
SEC West:
LSU
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
SEC East:
Florida
Alabama
Tennessee
Georgia
Auburn
Kentucky
South Carolina
SEC West:
LSU
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Texas A&M
Mizzou
Ole Miss
Miss State
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:37 am to Chicken
how about this... if Bama and Tennessee wanna play every year they schedule it as an OOC game in the years they don't play in league games
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:40 am to ottothewise
Otto, the East would be too strong...not very balanced. even with my option 4, I think the West would be stronger, but I think if Kentucky could ever right itself, it could be on par with Mizzou and Texas A&M.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:41 am to Elleshoe
Elleshoe, which option of mine would your statement apply? Option 2?
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:49 am to Chicken
any option where UT and Bama aren't same division or cross division rivals.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:53 am to Elleshoe
I think that is messy, and would never happen. They will figure a way to keep the rivalries and not make them have to play them OOC.
Again, easiest and less disruptive solution is put Mizzou in the east and have them play A&M yearly.
If, for whatever reason, that isn't desirable, try out option 4.
Again, easiest and less disruptive solution is put Mizzou in the east and have them play A&M yearly.
If, for whatever reason, that isn't desirable, try out option 4.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:53 am to Chicken
There are several things to consider.
1. I am sure all teams want to have equal home/away conference games.
2. I am sure most fans and teams would like to play a home and home with the other division in a reasonable amount of time.
3. Putting the 3rd most western team in the east is just dumb.
It basically comes down to catering to two games that don't necessarily mean a ton instead of what is best for the whole conference.
East
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
South Carolina
West
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Vanderbilt
It is close enough that the balance will even out. UT is already on a course for a shitty future. SC really doesn't have anything of a past. Teams like Texas A&M and Missouri will get better by attracting former Big 12 prospects.
This is also an unbiased split. It treats all teams as equals.
1. I am sure all teams want to have equal home/away conference games.
2. I am sure most fans and teams would like to play a home and home with the other division in a reasonable amount of time.
3. Putting the 3rd most western team in the east is just dumb.
It basically comes down to catering to two games that don't necessarily mean a ton instead of what is best for the whole conference.
East
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
South Carolina
West
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Vanderbilt
It is close enough that the balance will even out. UT is already on a course for a shitty future. SC really doesn't have anything of a past. Teams like Texas A&M and Missouri will get better by attracting former Big 12 prospects.
This is also an unbiased split. It treats all teams as equals.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:58 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:not sure I agree...while UGA/Auburn and Bama/Tenn get a lot of attention, would you want LSU to forgo yearly games against Florida, Auburn and Alabama?
It basically comes down to catering to two games that don't necessarily mean a ton instead of what is best for the whole conference.
In your alignment, LSU would lose some identity, plus the SEC East would be incredibly strong.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:00 pm to LA kid but AU fan
quote:
#2 and make the Iron Bowl and not every year deal.
That way AU is happy being in the East, and bama is happy keeping the third Saturday.
This. Then imagine how big the SEC CG would be if they met up in it for all the marbles.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:12 pm to Alahunter
Option #1890
Bama goes East.
East
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
Vandy
Kentucky
South Carolina
West
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Auburn
Bama and Auburn permanent Rivals. Requires the least shake up.
Bama goes East.
East
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
Vandy
Kentucky
South Carolina
West
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Mississippi St.
Mississippi
Auburn
Bama and Auburn permanent Rivals. Requires the least shake up.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:12 pm to Chicken
quote:
In your alignment, LSU would lose some identity, plus the SEC East would be incredibly strong.
I don't think LSU loses its identity.
Also I remember when the east was just so much better than the west. That wasn't even that long ago. I think most schools have huge resources and the divisions would relatively even out.
It all turns into programs being scared of falling to the bottom when try are on top. I think UT and SC would go to shite in my alignment.
I think LSU, Arkansas, and Texas A&M would definitely be as strong as any top 3 in the west over time. Forget history as these types of conference changes can totally change the landscape of the conference.
Also having permanent cross division rivals is insanely dumb and it is even dumber when we are looking at having only two cross division games. That is the number one reason Bama and UT are so stupid in this situation.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:24 pm to Colonel Flagg
My opinion is go with the geographic lineup and shift Auburn to the East, adding AM and Mizzou to the West.
Bama can keep Auburn or Tenn as its cross divisional rivalry and play the other as an OOC game when they aren't on each other's SEC schedule. The schools could work this out.
Bama can keep Auburn or Tenn as its cross divisional rivalry and play the other as an OOC game when they aren't on each other's SEC schedule. The schools could work this out.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:28 pm to Alahunter
quote:
imagine how big the SEC CG would be if they met up in it for all the marbles.
Only in the state of AL. Only there.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 12:32 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:
Also I remember when the east was just so much better than the west. That wasn't even that long ago. I think most schools have huge resources and the divisions would relatively even out.
It all turns into programs being scared of falling to the bottom when try are on top. I think UT and SC would go to shite in my alignment.
I think LSU, Arkansas, and Texas A&M would definitely be as strong as any top 3 in the west over time. Forget history as these types of conference changes can totally change the landscape of the conference.
Also having permanent cross division rivals is insanely dumb and it is even dumber when we are looking at having only two cross division games. That is the number one reason Bama and UT are so stupid in this situation.
I agree with you. Give it a decade and it will balance out.
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