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re: Do the rivalries really matter?

Posted on 9/3/11 at 1:31 am to
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 1:31 am to
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There is no love loss at all between Arkansas and Missouri. I think that would ramp up quickly in to a good rivalry.



agree 100%. guarantee you LSU let the SEC know about the bad blood between us and the ags and vice versa, ags Im sure have mentioned the history in some way
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41449 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 1:35 am to
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guarantee you LSU let the SEC know about the bad blood between us and the ags and vice versa, ags Im sure have mentioned the history in some way

For sure. It's odd, for all the history we have with A&M there is just no animosity between the two schools outside of the standard canned message board bullshite.

I've been to both games in Dallas the last two years and I swear if you didn't already know that we used to play yearly for 65 years you would have never guessed it by the way how friendly everyone is to each other.
This post was edited on 9/3/11 at 1:36 am
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 2:22 am to
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For sure. It's odd, for all the history we have with A&M there is just no animosity between the two schools outside of the standard canned message board bullshite.


they never stood out as a SWC rival to me, Arky-UT well hell yeah but never the ags

now us, I grew up on starting the season with them and we despised them, even when we were kickin them in the 70's and early 80's
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27180 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 9:19 am to
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Every sec game is a rivalries.


Not really. There are certainly SC fans that hate the likes of UGA, UF, and UT but the feeling is rarely mutual from their fan bases. All my true hate, and most of the true hate by Gamecock fans goes to and will forever go to Clemson. And that feeling is mutual.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3551 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 10:16 am to
I'm going to use your post here to try and make a point that people are missing in this latest realignment talk.
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Not really. There are certainly LSU fans that hate the likes of UA, AU, and UF but the feeling is rarely mutual from their fan bases. All my true hate, and most of the true hate by Tiger fans goes to and will forever go to Tulane. And that feeling is mutual.

Take that statement 30 years ago, and it is accurate. 20 years ago, and it's still somewhat accurate. 10 years ago to today, not so much. The rivalry with Tulane is essentially dead now.

Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, and Texas A&M fans (and also Georgia Tech, Clemson, Florida State, and Texas fans) take note, although most people won't because you don't understand it... it really sucks and takes a lot of fun out of the season/ sporting year if your traditional rival actually dies on the vine. Your rivalries help give meaning to what you are as a program.

So yes, rivalries matter. In conference or out of conference, it doesn't matter. A rival is a rival, unless you kill the rival off.
This post was edited on 9/3/11 at 10:17 am
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 10:20 am to
I don't understand why Bama-Tennessee is this sacred cow. The SEC had no problem getting rid of Florida-Auburn (or, to a lesser extent, OM-Tenn and Bama-Vandy).

LSU rarely played Auburn, now we are bitter rivals. Rivalries change. By all logic, Auburn should be in the East, but that would force Bama to choose between Auburn and Tenn. And we can't have that.
Posted by Tokyeaux
Member since Dec 2006
621 posts
Posted on 9/3/11 at 10:29 am to
aggies are the noobs but they're acting like they already own the place. i rather preserve old rivalries than add new teams.
Posted by RollTideTA
Member since Nov 2010
560 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:01 am to
Alabama & Tennessee are by far the two most successful programs in the SEC when viewed over the entire history of the conference and we hate each other.

IF A&M joins, you should just be happy to be here and out from under Texas' shadow.

Deal with it.
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
288 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 1:36 am to
I know some older Aggies who hate LSU. Most of them work in O&G. I know nobody who hates Arkansas, only those annoyed at the two recent losses. Our true hate will forever be reserved for the whorns, but LSU could be a very intense second rival that means more on the field because it would be a conference game. It would take several decades of events to surpass the whorns though.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22898 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 12:26 pm to
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It would take a couple meaningful games to surpass the whorns though.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8243 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 4:05 pm to
I thought that if TAM left the Big 9 they Tx legislature would require that they play Texas every year just like the Fl legislature requires UF to play FSU.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11050 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 7:23 pm to
What about the new out-of-conference rivalries? One of my favorite Saturdays is when the East plays all their in-state ACC rivals (USC-Clemson, UGA-GaTech, Fla-FSU) and spanks them. Add A&M-UT, OU-OSU or Mizzou-KU, UNC-NCSU and UVA-VaTech and you've got the equivalent of the ACC/BigEast hoops challenge that will generate a bunch of ratings even if the teams are just playing for bragging rights or bowl eligibility.
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1429 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 8:18 pm to
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Watch the SEC try to force A&M...

the SEC knows who A&M's rival is already thanks

Mizzou is for you, enjoy


My dream scenario:

arky-Mizz play in SuperBowl in War Memorial in LR after Thanksgiving as new fake rivalry (arky fans will believe its real if they are told to). Boot melted down to make new trophy specific to midwest. LSU-arky play in BR and Fayetteville earlier in year. arky posters move to Mizzou MB and have something to do other than "fish"/troll on here.

LSU doesn't really need a rival. aTm has UTa as it's real rival. Perfect.

Posted by packdaddy75
Member since May 2010
1222 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 8:59 pm to
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Boot melted down to make new trophy specific to midwest


This will not be a problem considering that after we kick your 4 teeth down your throat, we will have retained possession of the boot again....which will be 4 out of the past 5 years. I promise you...we will kick your arse in Baton Rouge this year.
Posted by Wolf Shirt
the boardwalk
Member since Sep 2008
10690 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:40 pm to
You figs im an lsu fan
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1429 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:59 pm to
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packdaddy75


quote:

LSU Fan


Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21956 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 1:52 am to
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which will be 4 out of the past 5 years.


It's only 4 out of the last 5 years if Arky beats us this year.

07 - Pigs
08 - Pigs
09 - LSU
10 - Pigs

ETA: nevermind...I see from your avatar that you're a pig fan posing as an LSU fan.
This post was edited on 9/5/11 at 1:54 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26321 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 2:37 am to
I don't want any of this expansion bull crap. But if we do then I say we need to forget all the rivalry crap and do everything on an even rotational basis. It is assinine to play some teams in the east every year and others only once in a blue moon.

I say if you don't play them every year are they really in your conf?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297018 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 4:28 am to
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Yes.



No. Times change, people change, situations change. Most rivalries are not very important at all. OSUe and Michigan are definitely one of the exceptions though.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76413 posts
Posted on 9/5/11 at 11:32 pm to
I think people think these rivalries matter a lot more than they do. I didn't miss aTm when we stopped playing them, don't care that I won't see Oklahoma/Neb, don't see why aTm would want to keep getting an arse beating by Texas just because their daddy used to get his arse beat way back in the day.
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