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re: Congrats to the Aggies - official Dr D eats crow thread
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:54 pm to supatigah
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:54 pm to supatigah
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Four 16 team Super Conferences is the future of BCS football
this.
and a 4 team playoff with the champs from each league, IMO.
Or, Winter Madness with a 64 team tourney with every team included...
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:03 pm to hashtag
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and a 4 team playoff with the champs from each league, IMO.
Or, Winter Madness with a 64 team tourney with every team included...
Essentially an 8 team playoff, as you would have CCGs.
Basketball is interesting. We are heading to either a separate super division for football under the NCAA (i.e. smaller than FBS is now), or a completely separate athletic association. If the former, baskeball could still be organized as is. If the latter, what you suggest is very possible.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:06 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Are you saying A&M and Texas are equal in those respects? Texas has 4 undisputed national titles since A&M last title. Texas has finished in the top 3 in the country 2 of the last 3 seasons and aggie hasn't finished in the top 5 in over 50 years. Texas is 2nd in all-time wins. Based on my post and your response, you seem to be really confused.
I love how you skew the numbers to make a point.
Fact is A&M has 5 top 10 finishes since 1980. Texas has 8. A&M has a winning record against Texas over that same period. There isn't the chasm you would like to believe that exists between the two schools.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:07 pm to Indiana Tiger
Would it maybe be time for the Big 12 to look into issuing an invite to TCU? If they're switching conferences next year, it makes more sense for TCU to go Big 12 vs Big East.
Or would Big 12 fans rather see teams like Houston, SMU, Air Force or BYU get invites over the Horned Frogs?
Or would Big 12 fans rather see teams like Houston, SMU, Air Force or BYU get invites over the Horned Frogs?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:16 pm to GerryDiNardo
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So basically you're saying that a team that has beat Texas 3 of the past 5 years would never be better than a middle of the road team in the SEC?....What does that say about your school?
Yes. And Texas would've been lucky to win a single game in the SEC last year. We lost to Baylor, Iowa State, and UCLA.
At home.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:23 pm to GeauxColonels
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Would it maybe be time for the Big 12 to look into issuing an invite to TCU? If they're switching conferences next year, it makes more sense for TCU to go Big 12 vs Big East.
Or would Big 12 fans rather see teams like Houston, SMU, Air Force or BYU get invites over the Horned Frogs?
I don't know if you're asking me, or if I was a convenient response post. I don't know what they will do. They seem to like the big 1 or 2 and the handmaidens formula though.
I actually like TCU. I think there would be alot of benefits to the SEC to have a 2nd team in a state like TX or FL. With smart scheduling, teams in your division could play in TX every year, and teams in the other div would play more frequently too.
TCU's location in DFW would make them a very convenient opponent for both fans and for recruiting TX in general. Of course I would take OK before them, but I would consider it a smart investment to bring them in. I would take them before OSU, but if OSU were needed to seal the deal with OK, I would skip TCU.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:31 pm to Indiana Tiger
There was an interesting post on the Baylor board talking about political influence in the state of Texas that I am going to do my best to recall here......
When you think about state politicians, judges & other people with power & influence, most of them are lawyers or at the very least went to law school. Texas has a law school, Baylor has a law school, Tech has a law school but A&M has no law school. Therefore, among decision makers and people of influence in state politics, it is almost impossible to find someone who isn't an alum in some fashion (undergrad or law school) of Texas, Baylor or Tech. Will this matter now? I don't know, but I thought it was interesting.
When you think about state politicians, judges & other people with power & influence, most of them are lawyers or at the very least went to law school. Texas has a law school, Baylor has a law school, Tech has a law school but A&M has no law school. Therefore, among decision makers and people of influence in state politics, it is almost impossible to find someone who isn't an alum in some fashion (undergrad or law school) of Texas, Baylor or Tech. Will this matter now? I don't know, but I thought it was interesting.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:35 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Unfortunately for those parties mentioned, the only one with any power to do anything at this point is the governor who was a yell leader and graduated from A&M.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:44 pm to GerryDiNardo
A&M just one upped the legislature and their dog and pony show... Expect a head shot from A&M this evening right at Dan Branch and HillCo Partners Lobbying Firm.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:50 pm to Ball Gravy
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A&M just one upped the legislature and their dog and pony show... Expect a head shot from A&M this evening right at Dan Branch and HillCo Partners Lobbying Firm.
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:57 pm to GerryDiNardo
HillCo and Branch colluded with Texas to file a tortious suit against A&M and Slive.
A&M fired back quotes from Branch on the LHN and conference expansion last year when Texas was looking at the PAC. Branch was pro expansion.
A&M has lobbied UH into their spot, and will file a grievance against HillCo and Branch for Duplicity.
We unofficially announce.
After the SEC Presidents approve on Sunday, we will officially announce before the leg meeting.
Branch and HillCo (Dodds idea) are standing down.
A&M fired back quotes from Branch on the LHN and conference expansion last year when Texas was looking at the PAC. Branch was pro expansion.
A&M has lobbied UH into their spot, and will file a grievance against HillCo and Branch for Duplicity.
We unofficially announce.
After the SEC Presidents approve on Sunday, we will officially announce before the leg meeting.
Branch and HillCo (Dodds idea) are standing down.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 1:59 pm to Ball Gravy
Who is stating that?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:11 pm to GerryDiNardo
Sources, but Liucci is hinting at it on his board.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:13 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Capitalism, thy name is Texas. Heck, the Mountain West has a network, but Texas has made sure the Big 12 can’t. You think that doesn’t rankle the remaining members of the conference?
They don't want the SEC - we know this from history - but they see no future with Texas keeping the other members of the Big 12 under their foot.
They have to make the move.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:25 pm to Ball Gravy
Keep the info coming, good stuff.
That said, can you explain this to me?
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and will file a grievance against HillCo and Branch for Duplicity.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:32 pm to JPLSU1981
Branch is on an oversight committee of Texas Universities. In the mission it says that all Universities must be held to the same oversight on committee matters (I'm assuming a criteria).
If Branch props up UTs efforts to explore other conferences and networks and admonishes A&M for doing the same then he can be accused of Duplicity and forced to step down.
If Branch props up UTs efforts to explore other conferences and networks and admonishes A&M for doing the same then he can be accused of Duplicity and forced to step down.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:33 pm to JPLSU1981
The HillCo claim is weird. They are owned by Buddy Jones who is a Baylor Regent. He was heavily involved last year in blowing up the Pac 16 deal when it looked like Baylor would get left out. There is actually a lot of bad blood between Buddy Jones/HillCo and The University of Texas because of this. If HillCo is involved, it is to look out for Baylor who stands to lose the most if the Big 12 blows up.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:34 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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If Branch props up UTs efforts to explore other conferences and networks and admonishes A&M for doing the same then he can be accused of Duplicity and forced to step down.
Good luck with that.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:36 pm to gatorrocks
Palm Beach Post reporting what we already know, that "Florida State Seminoles flirting with joining the SEC, according to sources"
LINK
Also, up on ESPN's blog.
LINK
Which goes on to say that...
However....
So, this has some to do with recruiting, but does UF have the pull to keep them out?
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Florida State officials have been flirting with the SEC for several months and the discussion is now getting more serious, according to sources. .... "This is real," said a source close to FSU.
LINK
Also, up on ESPN's blog.
LINK
Which goes on to say that...
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The idea of having FSU in the same conference -- and most likely in the same division -- probably wouldn't sit too well with Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley. It's not seeing the Seminoles around more that would irk him and other Gator higher-ups -- they pretty much play each other in almost every sport every year -- but it would take away one of Florida's best recruiting advantages over the Seminoles -- the Gators play in the country's best conference and FSU doesn't.
For many kids, the decision between playing at these two schools can come down to wanting to play in the SEC or the ACC.
Florida would likely not want to see that recruiting edge diminished by having the Seminoles even closer neighbors to the north.
However....
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On the other hand, SEC schools other than Florida might not be as hesitant to bring in FSU because it would cut into Florida’s stronghold on the state’s top talent. Making that Sunshine State talent more accessible to the rest of the league might be attractive to Florida’s SEC brethren.
So, this has some to do with recruiting, but does UF have the pull to keep them out?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:37 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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When you think about state politicians, judges & other people with power & influence, most of them are lawyers or at the very least went to law school. Texas has a law school, Baylor has a law school, Tech has a law school but A&M has no law school. Therefore, among decision makers and people of influence in state politics, it is almost impossible to find someone who isn't an alum in some fashion (undergrad or law school) of Texas, Baylor or Tech. Will this matter now? I don't know, but I thought it was interesting.
UH also has a law school and, hence, legislators. But circa 1995, during the dissolution of SWC & formation of Big 12, Baylor had the governor (Ann Richards) to help get their foot in the Big 12/BCS auto-qualifier door. TCU, Rice, UH & SMU were obviously excluded. Baylor has pretty much failed to thrive, particularly in football, on a year-to-year long term basis.
A&M has attempted to get a law school affiliation with South Texas College of Law in Houston. I have heard that UT Austin opposed this. BTW - I just read that Texas Tech also has a law school.
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