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Big picture: what precipitated all of this?
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:17 pm
Obviously, it's some combination of money/power, but what specifically led to these shifts?
I find the whole thing fascinating. I think it shows how what we take for granted is really just an ever-shifting sand.
I find the whole thing fascinating. I think it shows how what we take for granted is really just an ever-shifting sand.
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:17 pm to Tiger JJ
Big X network did all of this IMO
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:18 pm to Buckeye06
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Big X network did all of this IMO
I would agree with that.
And Notre Dame's impression that it was above any conference in football as it refused to join. Big 10 then went in a different direction.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:19 pm to Buckeye06
I think i will lead to a playoff sooner this way. I think it is good, right now.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:19 pm to Buckeye06
Arkansas jumping from the SWC in 1991.
Led the way for a bigger SEC.
Led the way for conference championship game revenues.
Led to the uneasy marriage of SWC/Big 8.
We started it.
Led the way for a bigger SEC.
Led the way for conference championship game revenues.
Led to the uneasy marriage of SWC/Big 8.
We started it.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:19 pm to OldIowaTiger
Big12 not paying everybody an equal share and giving Texas/OU preferential treatment with money.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:20 pm to Tiger JJ
People have been talking about realignment ever since the Big 12 formed. I think it was a fundamentally flawed conference. this was all inevitable once the SEC proved the two division model worked.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:20 pm to SprintFun
Nebraska being given the ultimatum is what tipped the ice berg.
Tuck Fexas!
Tuck Fexas!
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:21 pm to Tiger JJ
Terrorists
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:22 pm to Woopigsooie20
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:22 pm to wmr
$$$, of course.
But the mega conference expansion would have been prevented if ND joined the Big 10. They would have stopped at 12 teams with ND, and not reached out to Nebraska.
I've said this before, but ND not joining a conference isn't because "they think they are above all of that". It's because they have a 100 year tradition of being independent, and that model has been very successful in terms of branding the school as a national school. If you were the AD of ND, would you want to screw that up?
But the mega conference expansion would have been prevented if ND joined the Big 10. They would have stopped at 12 teams with ND, and not reached out to Nebraska.
I've said this before, but ND not joining a conference isn't because "they think they are above all of that". It's because they have a 100 year tradition of being independent, and that model has been very successful in terms of branding the school as a national school. If you were the AD of ND, would you want to screw that up?
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:22 pm to MJM
JIM DELANEY.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:22 pm to SprintFun
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Big12 not paying everybody an equal share and giving Texas/OU preferential treatment with money.
This.
If Nebraska, CU etc. got an equal share of TV revenue, they would probably be content with staying in the Big XII.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:23 pm to MJM
the big 8 schools (minus NU) giving tejas al the power with the big twelve's formation.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:23 pm to wmr
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Arkansas jumping from the SWC in 1991.
Led the way for a bigger SEC.
Led the way for conference championship game revenues.
Led to the uneasy marriage of SWC/Big 8.
We started it.
Actually, SMU receiving the death penalty would be the catalyst.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:23 pm to Baloo
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People have been talking about realignment ever since the Big 12 formed. I think it was a fundamentally flawed conference. this was all inevitable once the SEC proved the two division model worked.
I agree with this and Sprint's comments. Big 12's revenue sharing pissed off Nebraska. They bolt to a more stable conference regarding payouts. Hell, look at the Big 12 South's tie-breaker from the 2008 football season and you'll see that they have flaws throughout the conference.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:24 pm to Buckeye06
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Big X network did all of this IMO
agree
plus wanting a 12th for the CCG - I think they started out focused on Notre Dame and gradually realized there were other very profitable options
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:25 pm to molsusports
Nick Saban.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:31 pm to cyogi
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Actually, SMU receiving the death penalty would be the catalyst.
No, I disagree. I think the forming of the SIAA in 1894 and the Big Ten in 1896 started this whole process.
Posted on 6/10/10 at 4:00 pm to MJM
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here's a great read on it and well worth your time
LINK
Wow, that was a great read and I think pretty much nails it. Delaney is one smart guy.
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