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Will Fleck be on the move again?

Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:43 am
He has lost the Minnesota media already, and the fan base is underwhelmed by his sizzle. My guess is that he would chase a job with better recruiting possibilities if someone will look past the catch 22 of him not proving much here yet.


QB cecruit opens re-recruiting

Not MN Nice
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:46 am to
this is the most interesting part of the article

quote:

For the Class of 2019, the Gophers’ top QB target is Hank Bachmeier of Murrieta (Calif.) Valley. The 6-3, 185-pound Bachmeier is a four-star recruit and the No.?4-ranked prostyle passer in his class. He visited Minnesota for the Sept. 30 game against Maryland and also is being recruited by Boise State, California, Colorado and UCLA.


seems like a weak offer list for the #4 pro style QB
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
21044 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:46 am to
He always seemed kindof meh to me, especially with all the rah rah bs.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83925 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:47 am to
the boat got rowed
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
61017 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

He has lost the Minnesota media already, and the fan base is underwhelmed by his sizzle. 


So crazy, it's only year 1. WTH has happened to CFB.
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3922 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:02 am to
Besides saying corny stuff what makes him a good coach? His style of coaching would work great with the talent Saban gets when all you need to do is have more effort and energy to win.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Besides saying corny stuff what makes him a good coach?
1-11 to 13-1 in 3 seasons is a good example, no?


The idea of being only 8 games in and "losing" the media or fans is just silly.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:13 am to
It's year 1.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:16 am to
Overreacting.

Go ahead though Gopher fans. Run him off.
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11703 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:24 am to
It's his first year jesus. Campbell went 3-9 his first year in Iowa State.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36178 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

He always seemed kindof meh to me, especially with all the rah rah bs.


I never trust people with motivation gimmicks as the foundation of their program. While it may work for a few years, eventually players tune it out. Great coaches establish a standard of how things are done and refuse to compromise on those standards. Rah-rah coaches are good at reviving programs initially, but eventually go by the wayside because the core of your program can't be some goofy mantra:

Row the boat
Chopping wood
One team, one heartbeat.

Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3922 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:27 am to
Maybe Fleck is better than Butch and getting guys to take leadership reps.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Alt26


"Trust the process" is just as stupid, no?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:43 am to
quote:

So crazy, it's only year 1. WTH has happened to CFB.

Yep.

Iirc, Saban lost some games in year-1 at Bama.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 11:44 am
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10307 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:51 am to
quote:


Row the boat
Chopping wood
One team, one heartbeat


Hold the rope.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:07 pm to
I mean he was 1-11 at WMU his first year
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I never trust people with motivation gimmicks as the foundation of their program


thats a very shallow analysis if you think "row the boat" is all fleck's program is about
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I mean he was 1-11 at WMU his first year



Right.

His type of coaching requires complete buy-in from the team. He needs to run off the last coach's guys and get his in there.

He will turn it around if they let him. What he did at WMU was pretty damn miraculous.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116460 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:15 pm to
Yeah and I'm sure the WMU guys were ready to run him out of town as well. He's a program builder. They'll be fine. Dude is awesome
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

I never trust people with motivation gimmicks as the foundation of their program

recruiting is the foundation of his philosophy
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