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Why would you choose gruden over Strong?

Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:20 pm
Posted by gotygers
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:20 pm
Excuse my Ignorence but Gruden was a college wide rec. coach. I know he was head coach in the NFL
at Oakland and led Tampa to a superbowl. But he has very little college experience. Can he recruit? Although he has had great success in the NFL that doesn't allways translate to being a great college coach.

The DC at USC was a great NFL DC but has failed in College. Look at the college coaches that were great college coaches and failed in the NFL!

Saban, Steve Sper.,Etc......

Strong is a proven College coach. He was a good DC at florida, and a great recruiter to. Even at Louiville he has done a great job recruiting.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:22 pm to
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Can he recruit?


His name alone would be able to recruit QB's one would think.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:25 pm to
People are gaga over Gruden and rightfully so. He has a great track record and resume, however, in his book "Do you love football?" He states a few times that he did not enjoy coaching in college. He wants to X and O and out scheme people. He didnt like dealing with recruiting or worrying about kids going to class and dealing with boosters etc. Of course that book is almost 10 years old so he may have changed his mind but I find it interesting that no one else has mentioned it
Posted by gotygers
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:35 pm to
I feel like strong is a proven winner I hope Aub. hires him if they fire Chiznick.
Posted by JDM1992
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:37 pm to
Gruden's name guarantees a top10 recruiting class2
Posted by Interception
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11089 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:50 pm to
Are you kidding me?

Charlie Strong is not the name Gruden is. The guy can flat out coach offense and would be able to recruit nationwide. Plus, he would bring in a damn good coaching staff. Gruden changes the UT culture overnight.
Posted by Jalbow3
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 4:53 pm to
Gruden has had 3-4 good seasons in his career and when he did, it was with QB's in their late 30's that could grasp his unnecessary verbiage. Of course guys like Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Rice and Barber didn't hurt. I don't get the fascination obviously.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13692 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 5:19 pm to
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The guy can flat out coach offense and would be able to recruit nationwide
he'll be another "genius" who gets his head handed to him by our dufus, les miles and everyone will bend over backwards looking for excuses why it happened and how lucky les is. same shite, different year.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 5:20 pm to
Gruden is a good but unpredictable hire. He may do well he may not. We do know that he doesn't like college as much as the pros because he doesn't like recruiting.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 5:32 pm to
As a lifelong Buccaneers fan,and having watched everyone of Gruden's games here in Tampa. His offensive scheme was mediocre at best go back and look at where his teams ranked statistically. If you like passes of less than 5 yards, then he's your guy. His offenses ranked 18th, 18th, 20th, 23rd, and 31st in the league while he was in Tampa.
This post was edited on 11/20/12 at 5:36 pm
Posted by VolsMissthe90s
Member since Oct 2012
3038 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:11 am to
I am one of the few UT fans who wants Strong hired. If we hire Gruden I won't mind it but I think that Strong would be a great hire. Hart wants to unite the fanbase and to do that they want a homerun hire in Gruden.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:15 am to

quote:

Excuse my Ignorence but Gruden was a college wide rec. coach. I know he was head coach in the NFL
at Oakland and led Tampa to a superbowl. But he has very little college experience. Can he recruit? Although he has had great success in the NFL that doesn't allways translate to being a great college coach.

The DC at USC was a great NFL DC but has failed in College. Look at the college coaches that were great college coaches and failed in the NFL!

Saban, Steve Sper.,Etc......

Strong is a proven College coach. He was a good DC at florida, and a great recruiter to. Even at Louiville he has done a great job recruiting.




Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10666 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:43 am to
fairly well known that Gruden hated coaching rookies. now he's going to be taking on 25 "rookies" every year. Now if Dungy had been at UT the last few years to build him a foundation, then maybe Gruden could get them somewhere in college.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:38 am to
yeah i've been anti-gruden (in college) for years now. LSU fans love to push for him, but i just don't see him fitting as a college coach. his offense was too complicated for NFL vets, and installing west coast scheme in college has a bad track record (it takes too long to learn, and in college that will frick you)

he also has stated that he doesn't like recruiting, so this magical "oh he'll recruit nationally" myth may not be close to being true

he'd have to basically be a CEO-type HC to make it work in college, and if that's the case, why hire him?

also, if any of these rumors about his contract are close to true, it just adds more layers to the worry
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