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re: Why O is the right guy for this program.

Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:49 am to
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6081 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:49 am to
Hahahhaha well he damn sure couldn't deny his mistakes! Hahahhaa

Are you just as willing to ignore resumes of all other coaches as long as they admit they made mistakes?

And admission is all you need to be reassured that a coach is ready for a big time job?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279496 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:50 am to
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O is saying the opposite of what Miles said, and doing the opposite of what he did, all as the central plan of his PR campaign.

He knows what Miles was criticized about, and in order to gain public backing and support, he is saying the opposite. And people are falling for it



im glad this got more downvotes then upvotes. do people really think like this?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7564 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:50 am to
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You can't argue he's not a better coach now than he was at Ole Miss.




How can anyone make an intelligent observation of this after 3 games...2 of them being cupcakes. This upcoming stretch will answer your question but not right now.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 8:51 am
Posted by Grits N Gravy
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Jun 2007
155 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:51 am to
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is winning a championship the only qualifier for "fantastic"?


Way to avoid the question....

No, a championship isn't the only qualifier. However, for a school and fan base that think we should win championships all the time, it is important.

All I'm trying to say is O should have just as good of a shot as anybody else.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7564 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:53 am to
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can anyone help me out? and I'm talking about college, so don't throw Belicheck at me college and NFL coaching is completely different




I can think of one in college that did the opposite and that's Charlie Strong
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:54 am to
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I have watched Houston. While the goofy spread option stuff may look good other places, I don't want to see it at LSU. Besides, we would have to wait several years until Herman has "his guys" to run his system. F that. We have the players to win NOW.




mother fricking this
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279496 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:57 am to
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How can anyone make an intelligent observation of this after 3 games...2 of them being cupcakes. This upcoming stretch will answer your question but not right now.




exactly. Why can't people just wait and then assess ?


He's done some nice things for sure. But we need to see how he will handle games against teams that will actually put up a fight. What decisions he makes when the game is on the line. How motivated his team plays. If he puts the team in position to win games, which Miles failed over and over at
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83695 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:58 am to
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Way to avoid the question....


well I really don't want to sidetrack the thread arguing about other candidates when we know the top candidates

Fisher and Herman are at the top

some other options would be Fuente, Chris Peterson, Fedora, etc

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All I'm trying to say is O should have just as good of a shot as anybody else.


and all I'm saying is that O just hasn't proven it yet
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:02 am to
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While interim head coach, he has all head coaching duties.


well except for recruiting his own players, hiring his own assistants, or all the pressure that comes with being a HC...sure


At USC before taking over as interim he was the associate head coach, D-line and recruiting coordinator. So yes he did recruit his own players. I would think the pressure for an interim would be greater. He has a new job to perform along with what he was doing before being named the head coach, all while keeping a program together who just lost its leader.

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hiring his own assistants


this is just not true in this case. O has done splendid at this in his five weeks as HC at LSU. His first personnel move was to FIRE Cam Cameron, second was to promote Steve Ensminger to offensive coordinator and third was to hire Pete Jenkins for D-line. So far all three have been home runs.

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O has proven to be a fantastic interim coach. I would like him to prove that he can be a fantastic head coach before hiring him at LSU.


The O crowd thinks they are witnessing just that right now. There are a few more games and he will face a murderous schedule. If he can win games and the team look good while doing it and at the same time politic for the job along with his other duties. It may turn out okay for them.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:15 am to
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If anything he's done a fantastic job of staying out the way of the football and he's been great at being a politician.



Yeah, I've seen time-lapsed photos of him spending hours every day trying to figure out a Rubik's cube. Funny thing is the cube looks worse now than when he started.

Yeah, he hasn't fired, promoted or hired anybody. Hasn't adjusted practices, overseen changes to the offense or special teams. Nope he just stays away and avoids anything having to do with LSU football.

If he's hired I am planning on sending him a case of rubik's cubes to occupy all the free time he will have since he has nothing to do with the LSU football team.

Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:19 am to
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incident 10 years ago.


I wonder how many coaches we have out there who would love to have their failures not considered because it's in his past.

Hell, lets bring back Hallman. His failure was a long time a go too.

It's laughable that some want to bet the LSU football future on, "i know he failed bad the last time he ran a program, but that's the past and maybe he is better now."

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127265 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:21 am to
LSU did not fire Miles just so it could hire one of his assistants.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:25 am to
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Nobody honestly thought there were only 5 teams in the entire country better than them.


I disagree. When Houston beat Oklahoma to start the season there were probably a whole bunch of people who thought Houston was one of the top teams in the country. If a team can beat OU there is no reason for them to Lose to Navy and SMU and struggle against Tulsa.

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Not sure why 2 losses disqualify Herman but 27 are ignored for Coach O. Any candidate we're looking for is going to have bad losses here and there.


Agreed with the losses here and there. To me, the poor performance by Herman's team has been over the last month - very recent information to make judgement on.

For Coach O his losses were first off at Ole Miss. Secondly, they were over 10 years ago.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:28 am to
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O was a coordinator for a championship team?


O did better than that. For two national titles he was not only associate head coach, he also at the same time coached the defensive line and was the recruiting coordinator. Just being an OC would have been too easy and given him too much free time.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83695 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:28 am to
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For Coach O his losses were first off at Ole Miss.


yet the coaches before and after him had greater success at the same place

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Secondly, they were over 10 years ago.



the fact that he has not had a HC job in 10 years doesn't concern you at all?



Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6081 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:28 am to
Pretty much true....ensminger has run the Offense from start to finish. Aranda has continued to run his defense. Ponamsky has handled the perimeter (including being the man behind bringing former Tigers back)...Ed has been shaking hands and kissing babies. Aaaayyyeeeeee Cher!!! We gon pass a good time yeah on dat tell da troot Monday!

Hahahhaha he ain't done sht ( by his own admission ...and you Ediots , hang your hat on his admissions) except play politics like a good ole boy.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 9:31 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83695 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:28 am to
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O did better than that. For two national titles he was not only associate head coach, he also at the same time coached the defensive line and was the recruiting coordinator. Just being an OC would have been too easy and given him too much free time.



this is either utter delusion or pure ignorance

I honestly can't tell
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6159 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:29 am to
I cannot believe that LSU is in position to get one of the top coaches in the nation and the fans are going to let the AD off the hook and allow him to go cheap with O. I don't want to read a word of complaint on this board when he sucks because so many of you were calling for this move to be made.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:29 am to
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You are insane if you think the job of interim head coach correlates to running a program as permanent head coach.


Just exactly how does it not correlate to being a permanent head coach? Do they get to just go on vacation?
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52718 posts
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:30 am to
We run almost the same type of offense now? Are you stupid?
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