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re: Why O is the right guy for this program.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:08 am to BayouCowboy
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:08 am to BayouCowboy
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You guys don't get it. According to the no to O crowd he is a big dumb Cajun incapable of learning or "figuring it out".
you keep running around with this strawman
no matter how many times you say it, it doesn't mean this is what anyone believe
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:09 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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I mean he has more than likely learned a lot since ole miss and has become a better coach.
cool
let him prove it
that is all we are asking
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It is not by happenstance that he had success at USC and now at LSU.
nobody is doubting his motivation skills, which is what makes great interim coaches
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:09 am to HMTVBrian2
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I wouldn't hire failures
Not sure you could tell the difference...
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:09 am to Tiger Ree
And he had all 4 of those rings prior to his time at Ole Miss
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:12 am to Salmon
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cool
let him prove it
that is all we are asking
I mean most people are willing to hire Herman and Jimbo. They are not exactly setting the world on fire with their current teams. Win or lose to Bama I would give O a shot. He has already beat Ole Miss. If he can beat Arkansas and aTM, I say hire him.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:13 am to Salmon
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you keep running around with this strawman no matter how many times you say it, it doesn't mean this is what anyone believe
Oh please. It may not be said, but that's what's implied. You can be coy all you want.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:15 am to GeorgeReymond
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Let me give you a hypothetical
Would you willing to hire the Florida D-Line coach if he had the exact same track record as Coach O?
Would you dismiss his 3-21 record in conference play when he was HC at Ole Miss?
Depends,
Does he own four national championship rings?
Has he coached under Jimmy Johnson at Miami, Pete Carroll at USC and Sean Payton of the Saints?
Has he coached USC to a 6-2 after taking over for a guy who was fired on the airport tarmac after five games?
Has he taken over LSU and coached them to 3 impressive victories while setting 3 ALL-TIME LSU offensive records?
If yes, then I wouldn't be all that adverse to hiring the Florida D-Line coach.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 8:16 am
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:15 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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I mean most people are willing to hire Herman and Jimbo. They are not exactly setting the world on fire with their current teams.
most people are willing to hire Fisher or Herman based off their entire "portfolio", as Patrick would say
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Win or lose to Bama I would give O a shot. He has already beat Ole Miss. If he can beat Arkansas and aTM, I say hire him.
If O goes undefeated or only loses 1 competitive game, I do believe he will be retained, whether I agree with the decision or not.
So we shall see.
I just want the best candidate. O is not that.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:16 am to BayouCowboy
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Oh please. It may not be said, but that's what's implied. You can be coy all you want.
you see what you want to see
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:19 am to GeorgeReymond
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19-27? Let's hire him!
Also, 9-2 in his last 11.
If LSU continues to pay top dollar to get the best assistants, O will be fine has a head coach. You can't argue he's not a better coach now than he was at Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:19 am to prplngldtigr
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what is so wrong with wanting orgeron to be a successful HC prior to LSU hiring him as it's HC?
Well, coming from someone who was pissed off every time he did win a game at Ole Miss, it's not like it has been very recent.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:20 am to Grits N Gravy
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You can't argue he's not a better coach now than he was at Ole Miss.
You can't argue that he is better either, as we have not seen him as an actual HC since then
interim coach =/= HC
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:21 am to Salmon
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I just want the best candidate. O is not that.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:22 am to Salmon
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rational or intelligent about elevating his interim experience above his actual HC experience
Someone could argue about the time frame each occurrence happened. I think a person's most recent achievements/failures matter more than when they were just starting out 40 years ago.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:24 am to Tiger Ree
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I think a person's most recent achievements/failures matter more than when they were just starting out 40 years ago.
what about 10 years ago?
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:24 am to Salmon
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interim coach =/= HC
While interim head coach, he has all head coaching duties. He's 9-2. Yes, that is better than his record at ole miss.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:26 am to Grits N Gravy
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While interim head coach, he has all head coaching duties.
well except for recruiting his own players, hiring his own assistants, or all the pressure that comes with being a HC...sure

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He's 9-2. Yes, that is better than his record at ole miss.
Correct. O has proven to be a fantastic interim coach. I would like him to prove that he can be a fantastic head coach before hiring him at LSU.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:28 am to Grits N Gravy
Wow...you really believe that a month of running the LSU program is the equivalency of being the HC year in and year out?
Didn't have a damn thing to do with anything that a HC would be responsible for up until now and you think THIS is the obvious proof.
If anything he's done a fantastic job of staying out the way of the football and he's been great at being a politician.
Sounds like the good ole boy days are back.
Didn't have a damn thing to do with anything that a HC would be responsible for up until now and you think THIS is the obvious proof.
If anything he's done a fantastic job of staying out the way of the football and he's been great at being a politician.
Sounds like the good ole boy days are back.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:29 am to HMTVBrian2
People who have failed miserably:
Einstein
Lincoln
GW Carver
Edison
Wright Bros.
Belichik
Walt Disney
Speilberg
Issac Newton
Darwin
Churchill
Henry Ford
Woolworth
Macy
Honda
Gates
Zane Grey
Mozart
Tom Landry
You sure wouldn't have wanted to hire any of those losers!
Failure is not the issue, how you respond to failure is what is important. Any of the above will tell you that learning from failures is what makes you successful
Einstein
Lincoln
GW Carver
Edison
Wright Bros.
Belichik
Walt Disney
Speilberg
Issac Newton
Darwin
Churchill
Henry Ford
Woolworth
Macy
Honda
Gates
Zane Grey
Mozart
Tom Landry
You sure wouldn't have wanted to hire any of those losers!
Failure is not the issue, how you respond to failure is what is important. Any of the above will tell you that learning from failures is what makes you successful
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 8:30 am
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:31 am to Salmon
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I would like him to prove that he can be a fantastic head coach before hiring him at LSU
Yea, I would like to see that too but we don't have that luxury. LSU fans think all the best coaches in the world are going to come begging for the job. That's not the case. Jimbo isn't guaranteed to come here. Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Harbuagh....they aren't coming. There's not many fantastic head coaches out there that will realistically get hired and come to LSU.
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