Why isn't Jim Grobe on more short lists?

Maybe it has to do with him agreeing to leave once, for Arky, and then changing his mind.

Does anyone think he should have taken a chance at a job when he took WF to a BCS bowl?

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Keep in mind that many of these lists & rumors are fueled by coach's agents reaching out to schools and media members.

Could be that Grobe has just decided he's good where he's at, and has told his agent as much. And schools (and the consultants they work with) know he's not interested.

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Good point.

He would be a good hire for PSU, if he was open to it.

Hasn't he lost something like 20 games over past 3 seasons and not been to a bowl since 2008? Although I think they are bowl eligible this year.

I think he is a good coach, but remarkable?

its safer to be a "great" coach at a non-football school than to enter the SEC pressure cooker. its better to win 8-9 games a year like pat fitzgerald at northwestern than be expected to win every game, every year at an ohio st.

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What he has done at Wake is remarkable

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you must not be paying attention. he was an incredible 6-6 this year, 3-9 last year, 5-7 the year before that. 14-22 the last 3 years, yet everyone marvels at what a great coach he is. all in a shitty ACC. the coach who got run off the field against vanderbilt this year.

im sure hes a good guy and decent coach, just chaps my arse when people refer to these types of coaches as "great" coaches. les miles is vilified for only winning 11 games a year in the SEC, and this guy goes .500 and is doing a remarkable job. just doesnt make sense...

guy seems happy where he is. for that i salute him.

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Going to a BCS game at Wake Forest is a great accomplishment. Wake has an undergrad enrollment of around 4,500... Winning 8 games a year at a place like that is great.
Les doesnt get the credit because of the situation he is in. LSU gets athletes that rival NFL teams. It looks as if LSU runs a high school offense with NFL players some times. The perception is ANYONE can win at LSU. Just 'out athlete' teams for 9 wins. Les also has had a few questionable moments that have made national headlines to make him look a little lost.
Both are good coaches. I think what Grobe has done with that program is a little less expected therefore gets a lot of credit.

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exactly. this is why i said its a better career move to win 8-9 games a year at a very non traditional power. its easier. no pressure to win, red shirt everyone, never have someone leave early for the NFL, no one poaches your coaches. and were talking about the ACC. make a bowl less than half the time youre there and no one cares. make a BCS bowl and get trounced, no one cares-- youre brilliant just for making it!!

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The perception is ANYONE can win at LSU

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saban gets plenty of credit for winning here

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Just 'out athlete' teams for 9 wins.

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i think the key in all this is recruit shitty = have less expectations = easy to surpass said low expectations

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you must not be paying attention. he was an incredible 6-6 this year

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Considering we were picked to finish last in the entire ACC and most pundits thought our ceiling was 3-9...yes, it was a remarkable coaching job. We were 5 minutes away from playing for the ACC Championship after outplaying Clemson in Death Valley as huge underdogs, beat Florida State, played the hell out of Notre Dame. I'd have liked to be more competitive against Vandy but we had nothing to play for and they were playing for bowl eligibility and shite like that happens. Taking away what Grobe accomplished this year based solely on a 6-6 record would be doing a great disservice to what he actually did this year.

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he'd been there for 10 years. he didnt inherit some mess from another coach. not having the next guy ready to go is on him. just another example of the small school grading curve: suck and no one cares, be average and youre great

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You do realize Grobe has won over 50% of his games at Wake Forest, right? He has the highest winning percentage of a coach at Wake since the 40's. The head coach of an NFL team (Jim Caldwell) went 26-63 here. It's not an easy job. He's a high-quality coach. Saying otherwise is just factually wrong.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think coaches that can create - in your words - "miraculous coaching jobs" are damn good coaches in general. You don't see shitty coaches puking out miraculous coaching jobs, because they're shitty coaches.

I don't know if Grobe could succeed at a bigger school. I know he does a fantastic job here recruiting good players who can get in Wake academically (which takes away a number of potential players) and competing in the ACC most years. Our guys aren't out getting arrested and we haven't been on probation under him like other ACC schools (Miami, UNC, etc.)

He came into a bad situation at a program with no historic success and has been relatively consistent all things considered. Next year should be a good season at Wake...a lot of our best players are coming back from a team that beat every team in the Atlantic Division sans Clemson (which SHOULD have been a win).

He loves the school, makes a lot of money, and is 12 wins away from having the most wins by a coach in school history. And he's a helluva football coach. He's not Saban or Harbaugh, but he's better (and more proven) than a lot of these guys getting hired to bigger schools.