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Why are two bowls for Vandy so important?

Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:15 pm
I continue to see people post “Mason took Vandy to two bowl games”

Yea and gave up 41 & 45 points, both loses in terrible bowl games.

Their schedule was full of mediocre teams, or SEC teams on down years, with losing records.
Less talent, but they won against less talent. Yes, there was an upset in there, but what am I missing?

Honest question, Can someone explain what makes Mason a home run hire?
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
29047 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:16 pm to
BLM
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
6290 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:16 pm to
Going to a bowl game is a rare achievement for Vandy
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10651 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:18 pm to
Vandy

Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14699 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:19 pm to
For years this board has always said Mason for DC whenever he gets fired from Vandy...

Now this board thinks he is another Pelini hire lmao

His Vandy's defenses were always "OK"... He has modern SEC experience and now imagine what he can do with LSU's talent
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 6:21 pm
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:23 pm to
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Going to a bowl game is a rare achievement for Vandy


2016 Wins

Middle Tennessee State
Western Kentucky
UR Georgia
Tennessee State FCS
Ole Miss
Tennessee

2018 Wins

Middle Tennessee State
Nevada
Tennessee State
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Posted by Jugular Joe
Member since Jan 2020
5656 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:25 pm to
It's like Sean Payton winning a Super Bowl with the Saints, never thought it was possible
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

For years this board has always said Mason for DC whenever he gets fired from Vandy...


Honestly don’t remember that being a consistent thought amongst the majority, but okay.

I’m not completely against the hire, I’m just curious as what he’s done to be a home run, can’t miss hire. That’s what Orgeron needs, what LSU deserves.
I think we’re sick of the “let’s see” what Coach X can do with LSU talent.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3860 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:29 pm to
LSU hired Ed Orgeron as HC even though his record at Ole Miss was abysmal. Mason at Vanderbilt was more respectable than Orgeron at Ole Miss.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6785 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:00 pm to
If James Franklin never happened then that would be historic

Problem is James Franklin showed that you can win at Vanderbilt.

The right coach at Vanderbilt should be able to beat 3 cupcakes, 1 bottom tier power 5 OOC and take 2 games from the group of Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, South Carolina, and Ole Miss every year.

6-6 should be the standard. If a coach meets that consistently at Vanderbilt then he's a good coach. If he doesn't he's just not a good head coach.

Vanderbilt has plenty of resources and the academic requirements aren't much stiffer than a number of other programs who have far greater success in weaker conferences

Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
1206 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:27 pm to
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I’m not completely against the hire, I’m just curious as what he’s done to be a home run, can’t miss hire. That’s what Orgeron needs, what LSU deserves.
I think we’re sick of the “let’s see” what Coach X can do with LSU talent.


100% agree with THIS
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:28 pm to
I agree with everything you said. Maybe I don’t see what others do.

So you think it’s a can’t miss hire?

Honest question.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:29 pm to
I’m not saying Mason would be a guaranteed amazing coordinator, but it really seems like people are nitpicking everything he’s ever done to say he’d be a terrible hire.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:32 pm to
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If he doesn't he's just not a good head coach.


So how does this weigh in on his ability to coordinate a defense?
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24526 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:45 pm to
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Mason at Vanderbilt was more respectable than Orgeron at Ole Miss.


Mason
Overall 27-55
SEC 10 - 46

Orgeron
Overall 16 - 27
SEC 3 - 21 ( LSU, Bama, AU, UGA)
PAC 12 6-1

More respectable? considering the % are almost identical and Orgeron played against WAY better competition during that time. I would hire Eddy before Mason, and that’s not saying a lot.
At least we got a good recruiter in Orgeron. I’m still waiting to hear why Mason would be a home run hire. That’s the point here.
Right now I think it’s just another Hail Mary, let’s see, project.
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