re: When UTx has to hire some guy from N Texas

I'll laugh at Bama fans if Texas gets Saban.

I'll laugh at Texas fans if they push Brown out and don't get Saban.

Either way, it's gonna humor me.

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I'll laugh at Bama fans if Texas gets Saban.

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I'm sure there will be some morons who will melt. Most of us realize Bama will be right back in the mix if the right hire is made. And if the wrong hire is made it will only be another few years before we get another opportunity to make the right hire again.

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I'll laugh at Bama fans if Texas gets Saban.

I'll laugh at Texas fans if they push Brown out and don't get Saban.

Either way, it's gonna humor me.

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So far, I've found it all very amusing.

The arrogance on both sides of the equation has been astounding. Somebody's about to take a mighty tumble one way or the other.

Flame away, here are my top five. Records not included. Based solely on money and location.

1-USCw
2-U Texas
3-U Miami
4-FSU
5-Ohio State

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every coach had at least one 10 win season and 3 of them won SEC championships.

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Bill Curry won an SEC title at Bama.

Let that sink in for a minute.

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The titles in the 20's and 40's don't mean shite to winning today

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No, they don't. But titles in the 20's, 30's, 40's, 60's, 70's, 90's, 2000's, 2010's, point towards a history of winning, and actually shows, yes, most good coaches have a very good shot of winning at Bama compared to other schools. You didn't name a school that is easier to step in and win big

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Name one place that is, or name one place that has had more coaches win big than Bama. You realize Bama has 5 coaches that have won titles, and even when Bama was down (by Bama standards) for periods between 1982-2006, every coach had at least one 10 win season and 3 of the mwon SEC championships.

That's all well and good. The titles in the 20's and 40's don't mean shite to winning today. To act like Alabama would be nationally prominent as some kind of guarantee if they hadn't caught lightning in a bottle as Saban was staring down failure in big boy football is laughable.

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Those titles in the 20's, 30's and 40's mean a lot more than you think. Bryant played on one of those Rose Bowl teams at Alabama. He doesnt come to Alabama to play football all the way from Arkansas if they didnt have a great program.

He surely doesnt leave Texas A&M if he had not played at Bama..."mama called" ring a bell?

In the context of history, someone 30 years from now could say that the titles won today dont mean anything. They may not to them, but they certainly do to us.

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I'll laugh at Texas fans if they push Brown out and don't get Saban.

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Everybody has made this a Nick Saban or bust thing.

Mack needs to go no matter what. His results are crappy. The fan base has left him. He quite sending guys to the nfl like he should. Really the only thing Mack has is some big money guys that he is buddies with standing by him. Hell he even got his best friend Delos Dodds fired.

I have no idea why Mack would even want to come back. Next year would be another 8-4 pain train year from him.

With any job you shoot for the very best first until they say no. Saban hasn't said no yet but if he does, you move on to the next best. Mack would be way down that list and deserves to go.

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Flame away, here are my top five. Records not included. Based solely on money and location.

1-USCw
2-U Texas
3-U Miami
4-FSU
5-Ohio State

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Apparently you havent seen the size of our endowment. more money than texas and in the same state. your list is crap

Texas is certainly a top job but it isn't the job it was just a few years ago. You simply can't ignore what has happened in conference realignment and the disaster that is the LHN.

Conference realignment has taken Texas from being in arguably the 2nd best conference to the 5th and that isn't changing. The BDF is a disaster and you have 8 programs that no one cares about and are very limited in terms of potential along with a declining OU. Their exposure level is pitiful now compared to where it was. That's a major problem, especially because Texas has A&M as an SEC school 90 miles away, it's not like OSU or USC where all of their nearby competition is also in their conference.

The LHN is a huge problem and I don't know how people are acting as though it is a positive. No one watches it, I can't imagine a recruit or coach wanting to have it vs a conference network. The only thing it guarantees is 3 of their games, their coaches shows, and a lot of their programming isn't seen by anyone. How is that a good thing?

Texas also has fallen back on their facilities. Their weight room still looks like it is in a cave even though they just renovated it. They would rank middle of the pack in the SEC at best (I would put Bama, A&M, LSU, and UT above them easily). They got ahead of the curve several years ago but everyone has caught up and surpassed them now.

Texas has never had a great gameday atmosphere that impresses recruits. Ask any Ole Miss fan what they thought of going to the Texas game this year vs an SEC venue. It's big but its like going to an NFL game with no beer.

Texas does have money. They do have a great brand. They do have a great city. They do have history and winning tradition (though it isn't as great as they portray).

There is no doubt Texas is still a great job and for some it may be the best job. It just isn't the job it was a few years ago and it won't ever be again. Personally I think there are very few coaching jobs that can compare to the Top SEC jobs because of the built in advantages going forward with the SEC. The SEC dominates every relevant category of measurement in college football from NC's to Top 10 teams to stadium size to athletic budgets to ratings to recruiting and on and on. The game is just different now. Just wait until next year (or maybe the year after) when the SEC ends up sending 2 teams to the Playoff and another 2 to the Sugar and Orange. No other conference has that type of opportunity and it isn't close.