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What's the common factor with Bo Pelini, John Chavis, Kevin Steele,and Dave Aranda?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 12:55 pm
What does Bo Pelini NE HC(2011),John Chavis LSU(2009-2014),Kevin Steele LSU(2015), Dave Aranda LSU(2016-2019, and again Bo Pelini LSU (2020) have in common? Corey Raymond (DB coach 2009-2020) at Utah State, Nebraska, and LSU) was the defensive backs coach for all of them.
I would say his bio is greater than Freeman's before Freeman became a Co-DC at Purdue(2016) and DC at Cincinnati(2017-2020).
Yet many feel he isn't qualified to be the DC at LSU. He should know his role as a DB coach and stay put.
I would say his bio is greater than Freeman's before Freeman became a Co-DC at Purdue(2016) and DC at Cincinnati(2017-2020).
Yet many feel he isn't qualified to be the DC at LSU. He should know his role as a DB coach and stay put.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 1:26 pm
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 1:00 pm to boudinman
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Yet many feel he isn't qualified to be the DC at LSU. He should know his role as a DB coach and stay put.
No dumbass. If he wants the job in the future, then he needs to do what Larry Porter and Frank Wilson had the balls to do- go out and prove it. They both failed, but at least they gave it a shot to see what they were made of. If you want to move up the ladder, that’s how it’s done.
And this is assuming that Raymond even wants a DC gig. He’s not on record wanting to be one or looking for a position before. As long as been in the DC role here, maybe he likes where he is and doesn’t want to make that move.
Either way, you don’t know shite. He doesn’t deserve that high of a position without more outside experience behind this program. That’s how you end up with a Malvetto situation.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 1:01 pm to boudinman
Do you know if he even wants to be a DC?
If he does, perhaps he should take a G5 job and prove himself, like Freeman.
If he does, perhaps he should take a G5 job and prove himself, like Freeman.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:02 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I have to think he’d have opportunities to be DC by now if that’s what he wanted. He’s pulling $600k a year an hour from his hometown in a state that loves his alma mater. That’s a damn good gig
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:13 pm to boudinman
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Yet many feel he isn't qualified to be the DC at LSU.
If they wanted to give him a shot I think that’s a much better idea than most of these retreads, but going into a critical season with both an OC and a DC who are first timers in their role seems like quite a dice roll.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Do you know if he even wants to be a DC? If he does, perhaps he should take a G5 job and prove himself, like Freeman.
In fairness we literally just hired an OC who has never called plays before
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:28 pm to misey94
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He doesn’t deserve that high of a position without more outside experience
Why doesn’t the OC need this same experience? Dumbass?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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If he does, perhaps he should take a G5 job and prove himself, like Freeman.
If the talent is there already then what is the need to send him off somewhere else to go prove it? I’m sure O can tell if Raymond can be a good DC based on their extensive time together. Joe Brady is getting HC interviews one year removed from his first gig as an OC because they are recognizing something in him.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:32 pm to boudinman
Why the hell did you have to make another thread about this? Couldn't you have put it in your other Raymond should be DC thread?
Or did you just get tired of being called dumb in that one and decided it was time to start another?
Or did you just get tired of being called dumb in that one and decided it was time to start another?
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:35 pm to MONROE
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Why doesn’t the OC need this same experience? Dumbass?
It's very simple. O hired Joe Brady, who turned out to be an absolutely phenomenal offensive mind. Joe Brady told O that Peetz could run an offense like he did, and O is trusting in Brady.
O obviously either:
A- doesn't trust in himself to hire an unproven DC that will thrive.
B - does trust in himself, but doesn't think Raymond is that guy.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:18 pm to boudinman
Why do you feel so inclined to campaign for a job that the said candidate has not expressed that they want the job? Just because you have a thought enter your brain does not mean you should share it with the group. I am fairly certain that there is a very valid reason as to why you are not employed by LSU to make coaching hires. Let the decision makers handle this.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:37 pm to Sterling Archer
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He’s pulling $600k a year an hour from his hometown in a state that loves his alma mater. That’s a damn good gig
One more time for those in the back of the room
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:42 pm to misey94
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No dumbass. If he wants the job in the future, then he needs to do what Larry Porter and Frank Wilson had the balls to do- go out and prove it. They both failed, but at least they gave it a shot to see what they were made of. If you want to move up the ladder, that’s how it’s done.
And this is assuming that Raymond even wants a DC gig. He’s not a record wanting to be one or looking for a position before. As long as been in the DC role here, maybe he likes where he is and doesn’t want to make that move.
Either way, you don’t know shite. He doesn’t deserve that high of a position without more outside experience behind this program. That’s how you end up with a Malvetto situation.
How come Bo Pelini failed the second time around at LSU?!
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:05 pm to MONROE
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Why doesn’t the OC need this same experience? Dumbass?
It’s like some of you frickers don’t know that context exists. Raymond has worked at his alma mater in the same position for 10 years. As good as he’s been in that roll, he is not young anymore and is on a flat career trajectory. The fact that he’s not even being considered for DC rolls elsewhere is telling. Either he doesn’t want to be one or no one sees him as one. Neither qualifies him to be the DC here right now.
Peetz is younger and has still been around and worked in more situations than Raymond. He had an NFL OC gig lined up that only fell through because of the head coach not working out and had another interview blocked by Carolina. Oh, and he just happens to know our existing offense or something very close to it.
So he’s been looked at for an OC job before and is more travelled and held more roles. We also know he will run an offense very similar to what we use without wholesale changes. On the flip side, we have no idea what kind of defense Raymond would run here if it were up to him.
These two situations are not the same thing. They really aren’t even close if you look beyond the surface.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:09 pm to misey94
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If he wants the job in the future, then he needs to do what Larry Porter and Frank Wilson had the balls to do- go out and prove it. They both failed, but at least they gave it a shot to see what they were made of.
I agree, albeit I think Nick Saban could go where Frank Wilson went and not do well. I don’t remember where Porter went. I’m under the impression Raymond could have taken DC jobs at smaller schools from a few of my friends that grew up with Corey. Sometimes I think people just don’t want to deal with the extra headaches promotions often come with despite the bump in pay. Reading between the lines Corey Raymond is the most loyal person to ever wear the purple and gold or he loves coaching DB’s.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:03 pm to Earthquake 88
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I don’t remember where Porter went
Porter went to Memphis, his alma mater. Unfortunately, he was so terrible that he nearly destroyed their program in just two years. They were a bottom 5 FBS program the year Fuente took over.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 8:09 pm to TrueLefty
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How come Bo Pelini failed the second time around at LSU?!
I’m not sure how that applies to this as all, but based on the rumors of him being the first out of Football Ops everyday and spending way too much time at the country club playing golf during the week, it sounds like he just didn’t give a shite anymore.
Also, it’s not like he was doing an amazing job at Youngstown St. And his success as a DC was in a different era of college offensive football. At least Raymond has been very successful and consistent coaching his position group.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 7:47 am to Booyow
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He’s pulling $600k a year an hour from his hometown in a state that loves his alma mater. That’s a damn good gig
One more time for those in the back of the room
This is a pretty damn valid point, if true. I mean $600K is not chump change and he has been employed without moving and without interruption for the past 10 years. That is pretty hard to beat.
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