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re: Weis to Florida Per ESPN

Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:44 am to
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Great for us IMO. Muschamp will have Urbs sticking around, now a guy who has NFL skins and was a head coach. Too many big heads in the room. I think they take a while to get that under control.



The Gameday discussed this very thing yesterday. LC said it would be a terrible hire-young head coach being second guessed a lot by his OC/former head coach. Too many cooks...
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:22 am to
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RT Marcus Gilbert 6'5 320
RG Maurice Hurt 6'3 320
C Mike Pouncey 6'4 310



who replaces the above?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:22 am to
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head coach being second guessed a lot by his OC/former head coach.

charlie weis just got fired for being an a-hole and wants full autonomy

he can't be stupid enough to open his fat mouth and start snapping off again after being given what he wants

where's he going to go from here? college QB coach?
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:23 am to
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weis just got fired for being an a-hole


I would actually lean more towards Haley being the a-hole than the other way around.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:32 am to
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I would actually lean more towards Haley being the a-hole than the other way around.



He's the head man. It's his 5 million dollar job on the line. If he wants to be hands on with his offense he has every right to be.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 10:34 am to
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If he wants to be hands on with his offense he has every right to be.


then don't hire an OC who is obviously going to want full control. It goes both ways. This should have been brought up in the job interview.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:06 pm to
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If you think Urban has the class to refrain from commenting on the new coaching, think again


Urban Meyer doesn't speak ill about other coaches. In fact, after his win yesterday he said he felt great handing over the keys to Muschamp in such a fashion because it will make the offseason a lot easier on him.

Please, don't speak when you are ignorant.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:08 pm to
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who replaces the above?


Matt Patchan at RT
Sam Robey at C
James Wilson at G
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:36 pm to
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charlie weis just got fired for being an a-hole and wants full autonomy

he can't be stupid enough to open his fat mouth and start snapping off again after being given what he wants

where's he going to go from here? college QB coach?
he's been an a-hole and an egomaniac for his entire career. you think he's just going to flip a switch and be the dutiful soldier to a guy with zero experience as a head coach? maybe he will but the evidence isnt their right now to completely dismiss it as a legitimate concern.

also even if he did cause a huge rift at UF he'd get an OC job anywhere he wanted.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Urban Meyer doesn't speak ill about other coaches.
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he said he felt great handing over the keys to Muschamp in such a fashion because it will make the offseason a lot easier on him.
pretty damn easy to say nice things about Muschamp now. lets see what sound bite he gives when the media asks him to comment on WM's 3 game losing streak and what he should do to fix it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:01 pm to
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he's been an a-hole and an egomaniac for his entire career. you think he's just going to flip a switch and be the dutiful soldier to a guy with zero experience as a head coach?

if muschamp lets weis run the offense, as promised, i don't see the conflict
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:03 pm to
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if muschamp lets weis run the offense, as promised, i don't see the conflict


exactly.

I can completely understand why Weis was upset with the situation in KC. If you hire an OC LET HIM DO HIS JOB.
Posted by gatorsimz
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:04 pm to
can't wait to have Patchan back and healthy. he's a beast and going to be a leader on the line next year
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:05 pm to
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can't wait to have Patchan back and healthy. he's a beast and going to be a leader on the line next year


wasn't he a starter before his injury?
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:06 pm to
Well, we still have Crowton so there.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27846 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:07 pm to
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then don't hire an OC who is obviously going to want full control. It goes both ways. This should have been brought up in the job interview.



Really don't understand this logic. Hire the best candidate you think is available. That's what Haley did. What he's supposed to hire an idiot ?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:10 pm to
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Hire the best candidate you think is available.


then let him have control and do the job he was hired to do.

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What he's supposed to hire an idiot ?


he could have hired someone who didn't necessarily want play calling control.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:14 pm to
this sounds like muschamp is taking a very strong business approach. if you don't know how to do something then hire the best person you can to do the job and let them do the job. then you do what you do best. you don't always get along perfectly with everyone in an organization.

muschamp is at florida and he has to win now. look at how they complained about meyer and he won 2 NCs.

THIS IS A GOOD WIN NOW DECISION. SEE KC CHIEFS.

Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27846 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:15 pm to
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then let him have control and do the job he was hired to do.


It's Haleys 5 million dollar job on the line. If he wants input, he deserves it.
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he could have hired someone who didn't necessarily want play calling control.


So a puppet ? No. Haley felt it was in his best interest to hire the best available candidate for the job. Obviously Weis and his fat arse ego didn't like the way Haley has his input so he's leaving.

I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a guy like McDaniels now get that job. You know why ? Cause Haley is going to hire the best possible candidate available and not a puppet
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 1:16 pm to
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then hire the best person you can to do the job and let them do the job. then you do what you do best.


it's the best way to do it imho.

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