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re: Weis to Florida Per ESPN

Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:30 am to
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 12:30 am to
I like what Lee Corso said about Weis coming to UF. Corso said that Weis is not the guy to work under a first-time, young head coach. Corso said Weis will make Muschamp into "Ron Zook II" if he hires him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:34 am to
quote:

Weis is not the guy to work under a first-time, young head coach.

that makes no sense

he's a guy with HC experience and a ton of NFL experience. he's an a-hole, but if muschamp gives him full autonomy i don't see where they'd clash much. now if muschamp doesn't plan on giving full autonomy, there could be a major blow up

quote:

Corso said Weis will make Muschamp into "Ron Zook II" if he hires him.

i don't see it
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:40 am to
I don't see Weis having the personnel for his offense immediately at UF.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:41 am to
quote:

I like what Lee Corso said about Weis coming to UF. Corso said that Weis is not the guy to work under a first-time, young head coach. Corso said Weis will make Muschamp into "Ron Zook II" if he hires him.


Lee Corso's analysis sucked before the stroke, but he's a clown now
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:42 am to
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I don't see Weis having the personnel for his offense immediately at UF.

the only thing possibly lacking is a workhorse RB

they have a pro-style QB, lots of talented WRs, and a good OL
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:43 am to
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I don't see Weis having the personnel for his offense immediately at UF.


We have a pro style QB (Although he sucks), pro style RB (Mack Brown/Mike Gilislee), we have a ton of WRs. What else does he need?
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:54 am to
well a pro style QB that doesn't suck and I'm not convinced Mack Brown can really be considered suitable for that type of offense seeing as he's a little light. How is the o-line looking? I know Pouncey is huge but are the rest smallish or anything?
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:55 am to
I think Weis is bright enough to make something out of what's there next year.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:55 am to
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I know Pouncey is huge but are the rest smallish or anything?


Pouncey is gone.

I think we return 3 starters (might be 2). But out OLine is one of the biggest in the country. They are all 300+.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 2:57 am to
didn't realize he was a sr. that's sort of surprising to me that they are that big. If LSU hired Weis I'm not sure I'd be in love with the hire right away but it could definitely grow on me.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:01 am to
Our starters this year went:

RT Marcus Gilbert 6'5 320
RG Maurice Hurt 6'3 320
C Mike Pouncey 6'4 310
LG Jon Halapio 6'4 300
LT Xavier Nixon 6'5 300

Our C next year is Sam Robey who is 6'4 292 though.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:02 am to
no i believed you it was just surprising to me.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:03 am to
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no i believed you it was just surprising to me.


I would have sacrificed some size for the ability to, well, not suck total dick.
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:05 am to
What's UF's defensive staff going to look like? Break it down
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:05 am to
in a span of 6 weeks Florida has:

Bama
@LSU
@Auburn
open
Georgia
Vandy
@South Carolina

tough little stretch there.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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47450 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:14 am to
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What's UF's defensive staff going to look like? Break it down


If I had to guess it will look something like this:

DB: Akina (I'm not too sure about this one, DB coach at Texas, he's coached numerous all americans. Not that big of a deal considering we will be losing Heater who is just as good.)
LB: Willis (Coming from Texas Tech, he is a recruiting wiz)
DE: Durkin (He coached LBs this year and the group was subpar, but it was his first year at LB coach and DE Coach is his forte)
DC/DL: Dan Quinn ( Seattle Seahawks DL Coach, coached with Muschamp at Miami in 2005)

ST: Bisaccia (He's the ST Coach for the Tampa Bay Bucs)
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:21 am to
Informative post. Don't know much about Quinn. Akina got demoted from Co-DC at Texas to make way for Muschamp. Is Willis in trouble with the law?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47450 posts
Posted on 1/2/11 at 3:28 am to
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Akina got demoted from Co-DC at Texas to make way for Muschamp


Texas fans hated Akina at DC but he's the best at DB Coach. He's coached:

3 Thorpe Award winners (Daryll Lewis, Michael Huff, and Aaron Ross)

8 All Americans (Daryll Lewis, Michael Huff, Aaron Ross, Nathan Vasher, Bryant Westbrook, Aaron Ross, Quentin Jammer, Rod Babers).

quote:

Is Willis in trouble with the law?



He was involved in a domestic violence situation but, to my knowledge, nothing has come of it yet.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 6:47 am to
quote:

quote:
Weis is not the guy to work under a first-time, young head coach.

that makes no sense

he's a guy with HC experience and a ton of NFL experience. he's an a-hole, but if muschamp gives him full autonomy i don't see where they'd clash much. now if muschamp doesn't plan on giving full autonomy, there could be a major blow up
it makes sense. if weis sits in the corner quietly with his offensive staff then yeah; likely no problem. but like you said he's an a-hole with a huge ego; it could cause problems for muschamp.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 1/2/11 at 8:22 am to
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Great for us IMO. Muschamp will have Urbs sticking around, now a guy who has NFL skins and was a head coach. Too many big heads in the room. I think they take a while to get that under control.


This. Meyer sitting in Gainesville is a very loose, very large cannon.

If you think Urban has the class to refrain from commenting on the new coaching, think again. Every reporter in the State will shove the Idiot Stick in his face and ask him:

A. his opinion; and

B. 'When will you get back into coaching (i.e., the Gators)?'

This will not be positive. Urban doesn't do positive when it comes to competing coaches. And in his eyes, Muschamp is an interloper.

As to Weis, same thing. With his background will he respect Muschamp as the HC or see him as just another coordinator that got lucky? With the egos that typically come with this level football coaches, my bet is on the latter.

These issues will appear the first time Florida runs into trouble. With their 2011 schedule, we won't have to wait to see the show.

All of this is what happens when Foley makes the monumental mistake of not going after Mullen.
This post was edited on 1/2/11 at 8:25 am
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