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re: We are seeing another fanbase divide

Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:30 am to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216684 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:30 am to
How are you so positive that coach O can't keep this team to keep playing like it is now????? It's very possible he could do great things here......
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:31 am to
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Literally any old jackass could have beaten those teams with LSU's talent and Aranda coaching the defense


But it's how we beat them that has fans optimistic about CEO.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:31 am to
shut up dumbass. oh, and wrong board




newsflash--- Every topic for the rest of your silly little life will have those who sit on both sides of the fence


quote:

This Coach O nonsense is comical

only to a tool
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1668 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:34 am to
I love orgeron. However, why can't our fan base see that O is living on Miles program that Miles built. I'm not saying I wanted Miles to say, I'm saying what all of us have said since we thought it possible that Miles would leave. We all in unison said we wanted a head coach with an offensive mind and a proven track record. Petrino, Herman etc are excellent choices to fit the goal. The idea that some of you can't see what Herman has been able to do with no talent or resources is beyond me. However, this is not Herman or nothing. Plenty of good options.

O hasn't changed the offense at all. Let's put it another way, no other top 10 program would interview O right now. Again, I like the guy and I was rooting for him. For the job to be his, he had to change the offense and prolly beat bama. He did neither. And before someone says it yes the offense is better but not substantially changed. With all of this said nothing would make me happier than O coming back and being our coach after he learns how to run a successful program.

Bottom line, we are a top 5 program and we need to act like it when we make this hire.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 10:36 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:37 am to
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O hasn't changed the offense at all.


Yeah, because any interim coach that comes in midway through a season could completely revamp the offense.

You people are ridiculous.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46174 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:38 am to
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Yeah, because any interim coach that comes in midway through a season could completely revamp the offense.


The main reason O supporters are defending him to the death IS because our offense looks different and we are putting points on the board. So, which is it? Has he revamped our offense or no?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:40 am to
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How about 10-3 at USC and LSU? 

Oh, that's right that doesn't suit your agenda


It's weird how apparently none of those wins go to his credit.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:42 am to
There are two ways things can happen with our program if we hire O.

1. We hire O he under performs and we become UT after they fired Fulmer.

2. We hire O and he makes this program what it is supposed to be and he becomes the most Epic Cajun on the face of the Earth.

There are two ways things can happen with our program if we hire a coach like Herman.

1. His style doesn't translate to the SEC. We lose a lot of games and we lose Coach O to another program.

2. He does well and bolts to the NFL.


The safest option of them all is to hire O based on this.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1668 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:44 am to
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that O had to do the impossible, prove beyond reproach that he was ready to do this. Prove he is a top 5 coach. The point all of us are making is that he hasn't, in our opinion, and that he isn't a top five coach. We deserve a top 5 coach. Coach O has done a terrific job as interim, and I hope he stays a tiger, and I hope he can be our coach one day. Sometimes, to be the best though, you have to be ruthless.
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:45 am to
Good god. You sound like a highschool kid, and a girl at that. Hilarious who you show as proven winners when many on your list are severely underperforming this year including fisher and Herman.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:45 am to
No one says he is trash. I like him as a line coach and recruiter. I do not think he is the right man for the LSU job. He may get it and then we will see. I think he has learned a lot from his experiences and is a changed coach, but Herman, Fisher would be better. I have a feeling the admin already has identified someone which should have been the case given how they handled/mishandled the Miles situation. We shall see if they get it right this time.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22340 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:47 am to
A "divided fan base"? Is this the same fan base who has turned T.Stadium in a skeleton of what it used to be by bailing out at half time because it is too hot, too much traffic, too boring, etc etc? Screw such fans. Let the A.D. pick which coach would be the best fit & not worry about what fans think. Winning solves every problem.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1668 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:47 am to
Not many on here are fisher fans, myself included. Herman can't underperform, he has terrible program and talent to work with.
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:48 am to
But yet you want a guy like Fisher who isn't even competing in a weaker conference the past two years....despite having significantly more talent than anyone else...

Or you want Herman who beat OU then lost to navy and SMU, among others....lmao
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:48 am to
Not a huge O fan, but also won't argue against hiring him. I will say this though. Out of all the coaches you listed is there any one of them who hasn't improved over the last ten years? None of those coaches including Saban are the same coach as they werected 10 years ago, neither is O.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7721 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:50 am to
Your post is as comical as Hillary voters. Go to your safe place
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to
I'm not a huge O supporter either, but I do appreciate someone working their arse off and also putting a damn good product on the field.

You can't reason with these little college kids though, they know it all.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:52 am to
Anyone saying he has revamped it is wrong too.

He hasn't changed the offense, they have changed up the playcalling and how they utilize players. The issue was not that Miles wouldn't change the offensive style he ran, it was that the playcalling was horrific and he didn't utilize the athletes he had.

What has been the major difference between Miles/Cameron and Orgeron/Ensminger? O/E have opened up the playbook and used their playmakers. LSU has been less predictable, aside for the Bama game (which didn't matter anyway with the OL's lack of play).

Do I think O is the guy? I don't know, but I know what he has done in short order has been better than what we've seen for most of the last 10 years.
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:53 am to
Well I'd rather Herman than fisher for sure...but there are red flags when you have a team capable of beating fl st and OU, then start losing to bottom tier teams.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2014
1668 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:54 am to
Agree with most of what you have said, but there is the glaring detail that miles wasn't even shut out versus bama.... yes the O line was terrible but come on....
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