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Urban Cannot Succeed at ND

Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Hootie
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:32 pm
IMHO, because it will take him years, if ever, to recruit the type of players he needs to run his offense. That's why he turned ND away before, and why he'll do it again. Urban has no personality that can tolerate being anything close to a loser. He is one intense Mo-Fo and cannot take on a challenge. Saban, on the other hand, would relish the chance, along with the many tens of millions that ND would pay him.
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:33 pm to
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Saban, on the other hand, would relish the chance, along with the many tens of millions that ND would pay him.
I disagree. I think he is smarter than that.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:35 pm to
I don't understand why meyer's name is coming up with ND? Thats like IMO going from LSU to Tulane.

ETA: I think the Penn St. opening would be something to look out with Saban.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 2:36 pm
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:35 pm to
ND has a higher academic standard... any sec coach will be dumb to give up the kind of range they have for the limited selection
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:36 pm to
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Urban has no personality that can tolerate being anything close to a loser


this is why he is gettin ready to win his second straight BCS title, and third in four years

Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:39 pm to
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ND has a higher academic standard.


i hear this BS excuse all the time, if their standards are so high how come they keep gettin these top ten recruiting classes?
Posted by Hootie
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:39 pm to
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I think he is smarter than that.


Then you must also believe if Saban is so smart, he knows all too well that his style of management will run its course and start to have negative consequences anytime between year 3-5. He also knows he's raised the expectations (or resurrected them) in Bama and has no room to drop off in performance. That being said, having a new, fresh 5 year run in a new environment, one that can pay him much more than he currently makes, ought to be enough to finish off his career with more enough coin in his pocket.
Posted by crawfishcharlie
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:43 pm to
Tebow....


quote:

....this is why he is gettin ready to win his second straight BCS title, and third in four years
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:44 pm to
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I don't understand why meyer's name is coming up with ND? Thats like IMO going from LSU to Tulane.


He's catholic and he's already said it's his dream job.

No one gets more media exposure than ND, and it is the top football program in the nation. He's shown he can win at UF, and Tebow is gone. What else does he have to show? Dude doesn't seem like he's going to coach into his 80s and he's never going to the NFL. Nothing bigger than ND
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:47 pm to
Urban would be smart to leave now if he ever does. Tebow will be gone. Sure, they'll still be good, but they won't be at the same level they are now at least for a little while. Don't taint your legacy with a few average seasons. Leave now, try to rebuild Notre Dame, and be remembered at Florida for nothing else but 3 national titles in your 5 seasons there.
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:48 pm to
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Then you must also believe if Saban is so smart, he knows all too well that his style of management will run its course and start to have negative consequences anytime between year 3-5.
Psychosis takes over? At least at Bama he knows the average IQ is low enough that he may be able to continue to push them around...not so at ND where the expectations can be just as crazy ACCOMPANIED by higher IQs -- bad combination.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:48 pm to
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Leave now, try to rebuild Notre Dame, and be remembered at Florida for nothing else but 3 national titles in your 5 seasons there.


Exactly. Let ND pay you out the arse and you're always remembered as a god at UF
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:49 pm to
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Tebow...


is a urban recruit

Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:52 pm to
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ND has a higher academic standard.


quote:

i hear this BS excuse all the time


It's not a BS excuse. They do indeed have higher standards.



Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:55 pm to
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It's not a BS excuse. They do indeed have higher standards.


ND has advantages that other schools don't as well.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 2:55 pm to
they may be higher than other schools, but it's not some ridiculous standard

miami has "high" standards, and it's f'in miami
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 3:19 pm to
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It's not a BS excuse. They do indeed have higher standards.


i'm not arguing that..

what i'm saying is that they can still get good recruits.. check out their recruting ranks the past 5 years or so

i think rivals has them at # 11 right now

pretty good commits so far.. LINK
Posted by Monier187
Ville Platte, LA
Member since Sep 2007
401 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 5:34 pm to
They play no one. All they have to do is schedule 8 jokers and play USC and Michigan every year. This definitely makes up for high academic standards.
Posted by havoclax
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 11:32 am to
Why would UM leave UF? no reason...he's got FLA recruits...he does a decent job recruiting other parts of the country. He has a legitimate shot at 3 NCs in 5 years....with others possible....He has a great staff.....all to go to ND? No way he leaves unless there are other personal reasons...boss, wife hates summer, Southbend sux...been there in NOV.....and the College FB HOF is leaving.....
Posted by The Easter Bunny
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Member since Jan 2005
45667 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 11:58 am to
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Why would UM leave UF? no reason


well, ND could give him millions of reasons
plus more national exposure
plus the chance to win at the biggest program in the nation
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