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tigerbaitlawyer
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****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
****Update I will just say this so we do not have to start another thread.


Underwhelming/ Bad hire is real close like real close. Get vocal if you want to avoid this!

#bringYurcichtoLSU

This distinction needs fo be made.

Bottomline is LSU fan base want the young gun that is fast tracking.

Ensminger and Sullivan are NOT bad hires!!! They would just be underwhelming for a fan base that want the hot shot.

I would not protest this hirer but will not be happy. However, O’s would have even less rope.

This would be a safe hire for O. O cannot afford fo whiff twice. This hire would not be a whiff. It would basically ensure O did not decline further. If a young gun comes in and whiffs, everyone is gone!

It is really risk vs reward plan. Seem like failing to go for it on 4th and an inch. O’s logic was not wrong, just not the best choice. If D stops ND, then people will shut up, but because they didnt the backlash was really bad. This situation seems similar. If it works people will be content but if the offense falterings at all, The mob is comming.



***ETA

I am just giving my opinion. I will not be happy if this does transpire. I am just sayng the status quo of 8-9 wins will be maintained. A BAD HIRE WOULD DROP US FROM THIS MARK. I dont believe we would get worse just not better.


The status quo will still show O the door! So relax! I love Lsu to much to regress even further. I would rather fhe next coach inherit a 9 win team rather than non-bowl team
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TigerJeff
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the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
15514 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
This is garbage pure and simple.


SammyTiger
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New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2009
28332 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
How is hiring a guy who hasn’t been a full time OC for 20 years to modernize our offense NOT a bad hire?


TigerJeff
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Member since Oct 2006
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
Lynn Amedee, George Hafner, Morris Watts.


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TigahTeeth
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Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
Hell no TBL. Don’t come in here trying to polish a turd!


haramba3
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
675 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
I don’t want the hot shot. I just want a good offense. Ensminger and Sullivan are not exciting hires and looks to be the good Ole boy network doin work


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HighRoller
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
This would be underwhelming AND bad


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jcole4lsu
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Member since Nov 2007
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
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Ensminger and Sullivan are NOT bad hires!!!

Yeah, they are.

Ensminger hasnt been an OC in 20 years. Sullivan is ancient and doesn't have the luxury of a good young up-and-comer like Meatball + the Head Coach being a DL coach.

Sullivan to WR coach is an absolute DISASTER.


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Manswers
LSU Fan
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
Promoting Ensminger is absolutely the most dangerous hire O could recommend.

It shows he can't surround himself with elite talent. He's a below-average HC that is now hiring below-average coordinators and promising a championship based on wishes (and the skills of Dave Aranda thrown in).

This is the very definition of the failure of his stated vision and process. If this happens, he needs to go. If Alleva allows this to happen, he needs to go, too.


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tigerbaitlawyer
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Member since Jun 2016
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
Do you know Steve? The guy is brilliant. Just because you choose not be an OC doesn’t mean you cant.

Steve does know his stuff. It would be interesting to see how Steve runs his O with full autonomy and a year to prep.

There is just nothing to provide evidence to calm the masses.


TigahTeeth
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Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
Who the hell is upvoting this logic?!?


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RosyFinchBOYZ
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Member since Oct 2017
228 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
If O performs like this year again he should be fired. Miles was fired for failing to put LSU in championship contention. E will not put LSU back on that track. O promised to hire the best, and he's going back on that after one year.


S
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RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
O was scared to go for it because of what happened vs Florida last year.

Now he wants to make a “safe” hire over what is best for the program.

He is anything but a coonass. He is a weak, scared, unintelligent individual and I cannot wait till the day he and Alleva both get shitcanned.


ApexTiger
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cary nc
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
, I made a post yesterday appealing to Coach O to not go the comfortable route.

In order for the program to move forward he may need to be uncomfortable so that we can make changes in the offense in a big way.

It seems to me Coach O is content with 9 maybe 10 wins and finishing second and third maybe 4th every year in the West.


Look he's got money in the bank it's time to rock and roll and do whatever it takes to win big or just concede that he's not a championship coach.

If he's in it to be comfortable then he's not our guy that's a selfish thinking approach.


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FightingTigers1
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
It's embarrassing to be an lsu fan right now, plain and simple


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Draconian Sanctions
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re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
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Seem like failing to go for it on 4th and an inch. O’s logic was not wrong


It WAS wrong actually

Even if you don't get it, the probability of a team getting points when starting a drive on their own 1 inch line is really low.


tigerbaitlawyer
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2016
1231 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
I just dont want these two great coaches to to be bashed.

If I have my way, this is not even an option.


SportTiger1
USA Fan
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
17744 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
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Ensminger and Sullivan are NOT bad hires!!!


For ULL, sure.

Hiring these bozos at LSU to run the offense is about the most retarded hire in college football since 11/26/16.


tigerbaitlawyer
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2016
1231 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
I do not disagree.


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HighRoller
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
1161 posts

re: ****Update Underwhelming does not equal bad
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It would be interesting to see how Steve runs his O with full autonomy


O has proven to be incapable of allowing that.


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