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re: Top ten worst hires in the past 10 years.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 8:02 pm to ffishstik
Posted on 12/17/08 at 8:02 pm to ffishstik
quote:
With Croom and Willingham gone, will there be ANY Div I teams with a black head coach? I'm there are a few out there, but I certainly can't think of any.
My earlier response to the post got cross-mojonated, or something, and the quoted text and respondee are all messed up - anyway-
There were six black head coaches to start the season. Croom, MSU, Willingham, UW, Prince, KSU, Randy Shannon, Miami(FL), Turner Gill, Buffalo, Sumlin, Houston. Croom, Willingham and Prince are gone.
This post was edited on 12/17/08 at 8:03 pm
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Posted on 12/17/08 at 8:09 pm to Linkovich
NFL?
Art Shell
Gary Gibbs
Ditka
Saban
Spurrier
Chan Gailey
Lane Kiffin
Dom Capers
Barry Switzer
Jim Mora Jr.
June Jones
Art Shell
Gary Gibbs
Ditka
Saban
Spurrier
Chan Gailey
Lane Kiffin
Dom Capers
Barry Switzer
Jim Mora Jr.
June Jones
Posted on 12/17/08 at 8:12 pm to Linkovich
woody widenhoffer, when at vandy
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:05 pm to dgnx6
Bill Stewart
Rich Rod
Weis
Sherman
Franchione at aTm
Rich Rod
Weis
Sherman
Franchione at aTm
This post was edited on 12/17/08 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:48 pm to spartacus
Everyone keeps mentioning Franchione at A&M.
That looked like a great hire when it happened. He had just gotten done building TCU from nothing, and then produced a 10-win season at Alabama. He looked like one of the best coaches in the nation. It was a no brainer for Texas A&M to hire him if they only could.
In hindsight, though, he COMPLETELY STOLE MONEY for four years there. It still amazes me how wretched of a job he did - perhaps the worst of its kind during that stretch of time, because Texas A&M was competitive at the end of Slocum's reign. (RC was fired because he couldn't ever win the conference...) Now after DF, they can't even win a conference game.
Except when they play Iowa State.
Buyakasha!
That looked like a great hire when it happened. He had just gotten done building TCU from nothing, and then produced a 10-win season at Alabama. He looked like one of the best coaches in the nation. It was a no brainer for Texas A&M to hire him if they only could.
In hindsight, though, he COMPLETELY STOLE MONEY for four years there. It still amazes me how wretched of a job he did - perhaps the worst of its kind during that stretch of time, because Texas A&M was competitive at the end of Slocum's reign. (RC was fired because he couldn't ever win the conference...) Now after DF, they can't even win a conference game.
Except when they play Iowa State.
Buyakasha!
Posted on 12/18/08 at 7:16 am to spartacus
Butkus
and the clown the followed him
and the clown the followed him
Posted on 12/18/08 at 7:38 am to Sundance
After reading the names.......JUST A THOUGHT
---no more names here.
so many of them have been suggested by many as possible DC ....how can they be on the list of bad hires and also candidates ?????
This should open our eyes as to some of them.
FWIW
Here is a hint:
Look to hire someone who is hungry and still has their potential in front of them.
Look to consider someone's accomplishments, but look at where they are going, not where they have been. Sometimes there is a reason why the school at which they were did not fight to keep them.
....never look back unless that's the direction in which you want to head.
---no more names here.
so many of them have been suggested by many as possible DC ....how can they be on the list of bad hires and also candidates ?????
This should open our eyes as to some of them.
FWIW
Here is a hint:
Look to hire someone who is hungry and still has their potential in front of them.
Look to consider someone's accomplishments, but look at where they are going, not where they have been. Sometimes there is a reason why the school at which they were did not fight to keep them.
....never look back unless that's the direction in which you want to head.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 8:16 am to Linkovich
WORST EVER - Syracuse firing Paul Pasqualoni and hiring Greg Robinson: Pasqualoni was 107-59 in 14 years at Syracuse with 13 winning seasons, 11 bowls, 9-2 in bowls, 4 Big East championships. Since the firing he has been the TE coach at the Dallas Cowboys, where he helped develop Jason Witten, and is currently the D Coordinator for the resurgent Miami Dolphins. Robinson went 10-36 in four years at Syracuse. 
Ole Miss firing David Cutcliffe and hiring Ed Orgeron: Cutcliffe was 44-29 in 6 years at Ole Miss with 5 winning seasons, 5 bowls, 4-1 in bowls. Orgeron went 10-25 in three years at Ole Miss.
Miami coach Larry Coker hiring Dan Werner as offensive coordinator. The Miami offense sputtered, Kyle Wright (the #1 high school QB prospect in the country) never developed, and Coker and the rest of the offensive staff was fired. Werner then took over the Ole Miss offense, where Brent Schaeffer (another top high school QB prospect) never developed, and Orgeron and the rest of his staff were fired.
Baylor hiring Kevin Steele as head coach. Steele went 9-36 in four years and made one of the worst gametime decisions ever in 1999 when he chose a running play rather than a kneel down with his team leading and possessing the ball in the game's final 12 seconds and UNLV out of timeouts. The ensuing Baylor fumble and UNLV return for a touchdown gave the Rebels the win. His tenure helped lead Baylor into a cellar it is now just beginning to climb out of some 10 years later.
Clemson coach Tommy Bowden hiring Rob Spence as offensive coordinator: Spence took a dynamic and talented offense and made them amazingly predictable and mediocre and subsequently got he and his head coach fired.
Tennessee coach Phil Fulmer hiring Dave Clawson as offensive coordinator: Vols offense and QBs were terrible and Fulmer may still be head coach if he had hired someone else.
LSU coach Gerry DiNardo hiring Lou Tepper. Enough said here.
Ole Miss firing David Cutcliffe and hiring Ed Orgeron: Cutcliffe was 44-29 in 6 years at Ole Miss with 5 winning seasons, 5 bowls, 4-1 in bowls. Orgeron went 10-25 in three years at Ole Miss.
Miami coach Larry Coker hiring Dan Werner as offensive coordinator. The Miami offense sputtered, Kyle Wright (the #1 high school QB prospect in the country) never developed, and Coker and the rest of the offensive staff was fired. Werner then took over the Ole Miss offense, where Brent Schaeffer (another top high school QB prospect) never developed, and Orgeron and the rest of his staff were fired.
Baylor hiring Kevin Steele as head coach. Steele went 9-36 in four years and made one of the worst gametime decisions ever in 1999 when he chose a running play rather than a kneel down with his team leading and possessing the ball in the game's final 12 seconds and UNLV out of timeouts. The ensuing Baylor fumble and UNLV return for a touchdown gave the Rebels the win. His tenure helped lead Baylor into a cellar it is now just beginning to climb out of some 10 years later.
Clemson coach Tommy Bowden hiring Rob Spence as offensive coordinator: Spence took a dynamic and talented offense and made them amazingly predictable and mediocre and subsequently got he and his head coach fired.
Tennessee coach Phil Fulmer hiring Dave Clawson as offensive coordinator: Vols offense and QBs were terrible and Fulmer may still be head coach if he had hired someone else.
LSU coach Gerry DiNardo hiring Lou Tepper. Enough said here.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 8:23 am to GABlueDog
JD (bad hire) hiring Gerry D.
UGH
UGH
Posted on 12/18/08 at 10:14 am to Sundance
quote:
(bad hire) hiring Gerry D.
major bad.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 10:26 am to rbdallas
Of course, all this depends on whether you are judging from hindsight or not. Saban was not a bad hire for Miami at the time of the hire, it just did not work out. Like the poster said, T A&M hiring Franchione could not have been a bad hire at the time. He may have been the hottest coach in the nation. Crossing MS & LA into Texas did not make him an idiot. It just did not work out. If you go back to what the experts were saying at the time these were good hires.
Now, hirings like Chzik at AU, Faust at ND, DiNardo at LSU, Sherman at T A&M were all, at the very least questionable if not just plain reaches. If one of those hires goes bad it was truly a bad hire.
By way of illustration, if ND was to hire Meyer after next year and he went .500 there and was canned, it still would not be a bad hire. There is no one in the country that would have second guessed it. However, for whatever reason, it did not work.
Now, hirings like Chzik at AU, Faust at ND, DiNardo at LSU, Sherman at T A&M were all, at the very least questionable if not just plain reaches. If one of those hires goes bad it was truly a bad hire.
By way of illustration, if ND was to hire Meyer after next year and he went .500 there and was canned, it still would not be a bad hire. There is no one in the country that would have second guessed it. However, for whatever reason, it did not work.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 1:23 pm to Linkovich
Chris Scelfo over Rich Rodriguez... 
Posted on 12/19/08 at 1:04 pm to GABlueDog
quote:
Syracuse firing Paul Pasqualoni and hiring Greg Robinson: Pasqualoni was 107-59 in 14 years at Syracuse with 13 winning seasons
Charles McClendon - 18 years head coach at Louisiana State University
Never held another HC job.
137-59-7, winning percentage 69.2%, winning seasons 16, even seasons 1, losing seasons 1
Bowl Appearances 13 (plus one honorary mention, 1969), Bowl Wins 7, Top 10 finishes, 5 AP/6 Coaches
Only one conference championship (Bear Bryant - so no other SEC team was winning a lot of championships, either, during that era) (But Mac gets partial credit for '58 and '59, as DC)
***********************************************
Combined records for the 18 years after Mac was "retired" -
Bowl Appearances 9, Bowl wins 4. Top 10 finishes: 2 AP/1 Coaches
117 - 84 - 5, Winning Percentage 56.8%, winning seasons, 9, losing seasons 9.
One conference championship (in the more competitive, post-Bear Bryant era)
KARMA IS A BITCH, (I will exclude coach Rein out of respect) Coaches that tried to fill Mac's shoes in the 18 years that followed: 5, 1 quit and 4 fired.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 1:52 pm to Ace Midnight
Charlie Weatherbie- ULM
Posted on 12/19/08 at 2:49 pm to TigerMan02
LOU FREAKING TEPPER.
oh and carl "tatter-head" smith OC saints
oh and carl "tatter-head" smith OC saints
Posted on 12/19/08 at 5:03 pm to back9Tiger
quote:
oh and carl "tatter-head" smith OC saints
Amen. For some reason he was a sacred cow under Mora.
Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:05 pm to back9Tiger
quote:
oh and carl "tatter-head" smith OC saints
A bunch of USC fans think this guy could be the savior of the offense
Posted on 12/19/08 at 7:17 pm to usc6158
usc fans are in for a rude awakening
Posted on 12/19/08 at 11:26 pm to Linkovich
John Mackovic at Arizona. He destroyed that program right after he had made UT into shambles.
This post was edited on 12/19/08 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:24 am to southpaw07
quote:
And how is running the same play 5 times on 4th and short outcoaching someone.
You just answered your own question. He didn't try to get fancy. Just pounded it down Florida's throat with good ole #18.
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