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re: This plane was at Oklahoma University last week
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:38 am to Brendoni
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:38 am to Brendoni
honestly though 6 of their 7 national titles aren't that impressive. any title before 98 is not nearly as impressive as 98 and forward. You have multiple polls awarding titles and such. They very rarely matched up 1 vs 2 in the bowl games for titles.
LSU with 2 bcs titles is more impressive than OU with its one and the arse beatings it has taken since then.
You are right though history from way back isn't that big of deal to todays current recruits. I do think Bama can pull it off because BAMA does a good job of marketing its history.
LSU with 2 bcs titles is more impressive than OU with its one and the arse beatings it has taken since then.
You are right though history from way back isn't that big of deal to todays current recruits. I do think Bama can pull it off because BAMA does a good job of marketing its history.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:40 am to Harv1790
so five years after NS retires all the natties at Bama will be history. So you think not one recruit will be shown the bama history of what can be accomplished should they come play for the new coach. I think all schools recruit based on their history. the U has not been relevant in a number of years but they are not having problem getting kids.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:41 am to Harv1790
quote:This.
OU, Nebraska, Notre Dame are not the jobs they used to be.
the land scape has changed.
The interesting part is LSU, Texas and Bama have all withstood the latest shifts. why? because of location. Alabama, Louisiana, Texas continue to produce talent. Also those schools commit more resources to winning.
It is so much easier to maintain a program when you can fall back on instate talent during lean times. If you have to recruit national like Tennessee does then it leads to a long road back to being something.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:43 am to mrbroker
DA U has no problem getting kids because the talent surrounds them. They have proven they can win by creating the state of Miami.
recruiting radius kicks the frick out of history.
Also we are talking history from the 50s and such doesn't matter as much as recent. Also Bama like I said is a complete exception considering the circumstances. OU was good in the 70s.
recruiting radius kicks the frick out of history.
Also we are talking history from the 50s and such doesn't matter as much as recent. Also Bama like I said is a complete exception considering the circumstances. OU was good in the 70s.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:47 am to mrbroker
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I think all schools recruit based on their history. the U has not been relevant in a number of years but they are not having problem getting kids.
Nebraska is having trouble getting talent, so is Penn State, Texas really fell off twds the end of Mack Browns career, Tennessee struggled to get talent, just before Fulmer was let go. Tradition is awesome, but it's not the be all, end all, when it comes to recruiting players, and a coach.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:47 am to mrbroker
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so five years after NS retires all the natties at Bama will be history. So you think not one recruit will be shown the bama history of what can be accomplished should they come play for the new coach. I think all schools recruit based on their history. the U has not been relevant in a number of years but they are not having problem getting kids.
No, you didn't understand anything I said. The state of Alabama and the resources available to Alabama are better than they are at OU.
It takes a lot of persuasion to get a kid to pack his bags for the midwest. Furthermore, what recruits has the state of OU produced? They have to constantly reach into Texas for recruits. This is why they are voting "NO" to Houston Big 12 bid.
Let's also be clear that most kids do not commit to the program but the coach. They go to Bama to play for the best coach. The history is just icing on the cake. Had history alone recruited the kids then Alabama would've done well in the 00's.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:49 am to Brendoni
Penn state is a deeper problem, there just aren't that many kids that enjoy being called pedo state.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:50 am to heartbreakTiger
true, but they weren't very good, even before that mess.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:52 am to Brendoni
yep, mainly due to population shifts and kids just not wanting to play in the middle of nowhere.
It is so much easier for LSU and BAMA because instate talent can at least keep things going. when you don't have instate talent you have to expand so much more energy on each recruit.
look at our class we have had very little defections since we axed les miles. Any school that makes a coaching change that isn't something like FSU with Jimbo usually has a splash of recruits leave.
in state kids are much more likely to wait and see who is the next coach and if they fit because they want to be at the program.
ND, Pedo state, and the huskers don't have the instate guys to help them. If they strike out on a coach its bad news.
It is so much easier for LSU and BAMA because instate talent can at least keep things going. when you don't have instate talent you have to expand so much more energy on each recruit.
look at our class we have had very little defections since we axed les miles. Any school that makes a coaching change that isn't something like FSU with Jimbo usually has a splash of recruits leave.
in state kids are much more likely to wait and see who is the next coach and if they fit because they want to be at the program.
ND, Pedo state, and the huskers don't have the instate guys to help them. If they strike out on a coach its bad news.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:57 am to heartbreakTiger
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It is so much easier for LSU and BAMA because instate talent can at least keep things going. when you don't have instate talent you have to expand so much more energy on each recruit.
Exactly, the state of Oklahoma doesn't produce a lot of talent, so OU has to recruit Texas, and other states first, unlike LSU and other schools in the south. Don't get me wrong, they have to recruit local talent, but there simply isn't enough here for them to "survive", in order to be a competitive team.
This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 9:58 am
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:59 am to Brendoni
yep and OU is always behind at first in the recruitment of a out of state kid. Sure you have some kids that just want a change of scenery so its bit easier to pull them, but most kids want to stay in state. You have to work so much harder when you are the 2nd and 3rd choice to prove that you are better for them.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:23 pm to jaTigerfan
They made a special trip to Norman to let Stoops know in person he isn't under consideration.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 12:32 pm to jaTigerfan
Sure was a quick interview and must have been set up before Miles was fired.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 1:07 pm to Maniac979
u really think they went to OK for an interview? quick or not?
Posted on 10/8/16 at 1:34 pm to dbuchanon
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UF is scared of the LSU team
Yes, they are
Posted on 10/8/16 at 1:57 pm to mrbroker
Probably an organ donor flight for Acadian Ambulance.
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:44 pm to Croozin2
OU typically recruits in the top 10-15 and currently has a top 5 class....they pay over 5 mil a year and have a 300 mil upgrade being completed in 16/17. How could LSU be considered a better job?
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:49 pm to Boomer00
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How could LSU be considered a better job?
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:57 pm to mrbroker
Once Saban leaves bama will suck as they did for years. Enjoy it while you can slick
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